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... and most Browns fans will want them to draft a QB and play him in the first game...

This one made me laugh... Thanks Canton Dawg. I'm also in Canton. We just need the voice over for that commercial edited a bit... "If you've been exposed to Cleveland Browns football between the years 1982-2022, you may have been exposed to Toxic Football and are entitled to compensation..." Do you think Misny can win this case and Make... Them Pay?

Oops. Sorry... in a 4- or 5-way tie involving the Colts, the Titans would first be eliminated by the Colts due to the divisional record. If this happens, then of the 2 or 3 remaining teams - Browns-Colts or Brown-Colts-Raiders - the Browns win with better Conference record.

I believe that the only way they get in is if there is a 4-way or 5-way tie. Steelers and Titans have to lose both remaining. Browns and Raiders and/or Colts have to win both remaining. If this is the case, Browns and Steelers use divisional tie-breakers first, which the Browns win by division record. With 3 or 4 teams remaining, head-to-head rule won't apply as they didn't all play each other. Browns would then win over Titans and Raiders and/or Colts because of Conference record. If Raiders and Colts don't win both and it is a 3-way tie, then Titans are in. Browns and Steelers still use divisional tie-breaker which Browns win by division record. Browns lose to Titans due to head-to-head, as Browns lost in week 1 to Titans.

"Best" 3 chronologically - Crennel, Pettine, Williams Worst 3 is a tie - Jackson, Jackson, Jackson and Mangini, Mangini, Mangini

Many have commented on Mayfield's "regression" this year. It's a little comical to talk about regression for a second-year QB, I think. Last year he threw into double coverage a lot... a LOT... and got away with it. This year he's trying to do the same - throw into double and triple coverage and rely on the strength of his arm to get the ball there... and is throwing more interceptions as a result because teams have better preparation for him. He hasn't developed a finesse pass, yet. Just throw it hard. Understandable. He's only in his second year. So, now he's gun shy. Doesn't want to throw interceptions, so he's late... or second guesses himself... or - worst of all - tries to throw even harder. Classic sophomore season. Did you REALLY expect anything else? If so, then just review the overwhelming history of QBs who started playing right out of college... it's not pretty. And it goes to show that this RARELY works. You can't expect instant gratification. It just doesn't work that way. Never did. Still doesn't, despite the expectations of teams and fans. As an end note, I would point out that there is history on his side in the form of other hard-throwing QBs who struggled in their first few seasons until they learned the game. John Elway comes to mind. We can talk Mayfield in 2022 and we'll see what we're saying then.

Is it really THAT much of a surprise? Change your coaching staff. Second year (and still unproven) QB, different O-line, some new receivers... Suspect LBs and secondary... To buy the Kool-Aid that we were sold all summer and from the Vegas odds-makers... This was an 8-8 team from the start, in the first year of - yet another - rebuild, but with the team talent skipped a year to the second year of - yet another - rebuild. The schedule killed them, as you can NEVER evaluate a rebuilding team before the first half of the season - when they're still learning to play with each other. We were sold the idea that we FINALLY had the MESSIAH! The QB to save the NFL. We would score TDs on EVERY possession. It bothers me more that there still isn't any discipline on this team after 8 games, as the unnecessary penalties are killing them. And I'm more concerned with the defense, because you just don't win in this league without it. The D-line is geared towards pass rush/sacks and isn't stopping the run. The LBs and secondary are awful at times. No one knows how to tackle - just hit (although that isn't THAT surprising , since that's what they're coached to do) Defense wins championships... and we don't have a championship caliber defense yet. After Buffalo, the schedule favors them. 8-8. Just like they should have been from the beginning.