WalterWhite Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Gibson Hoyer Sheard Cameron Gordon Skrine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 We had better re-sign every one of them or we are fucking ourselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 We had better re-sign every one of them or we are fucking ourselves... With a broken broom stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gibson Hoyer Sheard Cameron Gordon Skrine I think we really have to see how the rest of the season plays out - especially for Hoyer and Cameron. Cameron may demand too much money to be worth it - and he hasn't been playing like he's worth it since the first half of last year. Hoyer - I suspect he'll be able to get more accurately ranked after the TNF game against the bungles. Right now: 1.) Gipson - Had a great year last year, and is continuing to look better and better. We need to keep him, big time. 2.) Sheard - He'd be a big asset on most teams. If we don't keep him, I'd certainly like to see us get something for him. 3.) Gordon - Despite not playing, he's our best receiver by far. 4.) Skrine - Still fairly average. Has improved a lot, but still whiffs a bit. He's small, but fast. He's an acceptable nickel corner or a solid depth corner. Too hard to rank Cameron and Hoyer at this point. Cameron's probably going to be looking for top 5-10 money - he needs to start playing like a top 5-10 TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Um...Gordon? By some distance? Gibson - lots of picks, but most have come from other players making plays and him being in the right place; more a schematic thing? Still, would be happy retaining him. Hoyer - we'll see... Sheard - solid, but not spectacular. If we let him go and get a big time OLB from the draft like Mack this year I'd be happy. Cameron - one good season does not an elite player make. Even in that season he tailed off massively after Hoyer got injured. Needs to pick it up this year. Gordon - needs to stay on the field for him to get any decent sized contract. I'd like to get him signed to a contract this offseason, in anticipation of him having a big 2015, the guy is just too talented to be kept down. After all, he got all those yards from Hoyer, Flippy weeden and Check-down Charlie Campbell. How many 8-yard crossing routes did he take fro 20+ yards? Skrine - solid. Hopefully Gilbert develops in to a solid outside corner, so Skrine doesn't have to cover 6'5" receivers and can go to the slot, with K'Waun Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gordon is not a free agent after this year, correct? In that case, Id say Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gordon is not a free agent after this year, correct? In that case, Id say Hoyer. Correct, but we'd presumably be looking to extend him past his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Also, is Rubin not a FA after this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Full list of free agents (sorted by total contract size): Ahtyba Rubin Jabaal Sheard Jordan Cameron Buster Skrine Miles Austin Brian Hoyer Johnson Bademosi Tashaun Gipson Ishmaa'ily Kitchen Andre Smith Billy Cundiff Spencer Lanning Jim Leonhard Marlon Moore Sione Fua Craig Robertson Gerell Robinson Kiero Small Vinston Painter http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 First priority IMO is Gipson from that list. He's quietly having a pro-bowl caliber year and I still think we could get him for relatively cheap. It's still too early to think about Hoyer and Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I hope they try hard to sign Sheard. He always seems to have a solid game with a few big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gibson....spell it right. Hoyer.....can we truly say yet that he is a cut above the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick/Matt Schaub/Ponder and the like? Sheard....not irreplaceable Cameron....Pro Bowl caliber Gordon....how can he not re-sign here? Skrine....dime a dozen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gibson....spell it right. Hoyer.....can we truly say yet that he is a cut above the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick/Matt Schaub/Ponder and the like? Sheard....not irreplaceable Cameron....Pro Bowl caliber Gordon....how can he not re-sign here? Skrine....dime a dozen? Gipson - agree Hoyer - Ponder is THE worst QB in the NFL. Also, Hoyer doesn't turn the ball over at the same rate Fitz does Sheard - I'd like to keep him but his production at a stand up role is limited Cameron - Depends on asking price Gordon - Same Skrine - Yes. His development over the past 18 months has been good. He may be up and down on occasion but he's an OK #2 and a solid #3 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gipson - Very solid for 2 years now, so he's #1 on my list Skrine - #2 He's not all pro, but is a solid starter in one of our weakest areas. We need him and depth. Sheard - #3 Another unspectacular but solid player. I think he was better at DE, but his versatility and consistent play make me want to keep him. Hoyer - #4 My verdict is still out on him. I like that he wins, but dont see him as a "franchise type QB". Id sign him to average dollars, but wouldn't go anywhere near "top ten" type $ Cameron - Eh. Has good hands and has "a" good season under his belt, but not the star I wish he was. Kinda one dimensional and a little soft, if you ask me. Id sign him too, but like Hoyer, wouldn't give him top dollars based upon one good season Gordon - Mfer better shut up and just sign. He owes the Browns for standing behind him and all his BS problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 With a broken broom stick. Made me quiver - and not in a good Las Vegas way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Right now... 1. Cameron - Despite the decrease in the numbers, Jordan is a weapon that opposing D's need to game plan for. He needs to stay on this team. 2. Gipson - Starting safety, playing great. I wouldn't want to have to replace him. 3. Hoyer - He's ranked third, but he could be first. It'll depend how he recovers from the stinker in JAX. This IS our starting QB, so keeping him around is important. 4. TIE - Rubin and Sheard - We have to sign one or the other, at least. It's hard to replace a pass-rusher and a D-Lineman. If I have to lean one way, I keep Sheard. 5. Skrine - Can't have enough depth in the DB room. We drafted, groomed, booed, and cheered for this guy. I'd like to see him stay around. Gordon won't be a FA, but we'll re-sign him next year if he can get back on the field this year and perform, and if he can get through the off-season without getting into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gordon won't be a FA, but we'll re-sign him next year if he can get back on the field this year and perform, and if he can get through the off-season without getting into trouble. Point taken of Gordon... but I'd lock him up ASAP while there's some measure of gratitude for standing by him. He is the only elite player on that list. There are other good players, other very good players, but only one elite player. I'd put Gipson at the top of the very good list. You have to keep your middle intact when you have a good one... and he's a very good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Cameron - I could care less if we sign him or not.. he's not dependable enough. Hoyer - Until he fails completely,or something better comes along.. You keep him at all cost. Skrine - the only sure DB we have besides Haden. Sign him!. Gipson - You just cant over state the premium on his ball hawking skills. Sign him also. Gordon - He owes the team for sticking with him.. The rest of the list.. I couldn't care less what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Gordon makes Cameron better when they are out there together. Need to retain both despite the off-field risks on Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Cameron had 200 yards in the 2 games without JG last year, 700 in 14 games with him. So I'm not 100% sold on "he'll be great when Gordon's back" line of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Cameron had 200 yards in the 2 games without JG last year, 700 in 14 games with him. So I'm not 100% sold on "he'll be great when Gordon's back" line of thinking. Me either. Plus he had about 1/2 of his yards/catches in the first 5 games. Then was fairly average the rest of the way. And this year he isn't exactly slaying it. Good, yes. Great, no. As I said before, I think he's a good receiver, but not the complete package for tight end. And Im not bashing him, just saying that he isn't the perennial pro bowl type player that some have suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Me either. Plus he had about 1/2 of his yards/catches in the first 5 games. Then was fairly average the rest of the way. And this year he isn't exactly slaying it. Good, yes. Great, no. As I said before, I think he's a good receiver, but not the complete package for tight end. And Im not bashing him, just saying that he isn't the perennial pro bowl type player that some have suggested. This is a very fair post and what i've felt all along with the guy. Solid player, fits a similar mold to a Dennis Pitta, Owen Daniels (prime years) type of guy. Solid, worth a reasonable contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Definitely: Gipson Kitchen Sheard Meh: Cameron Hoyer Rubin should be allowed to walk.. he's just not as athletic as he wants to be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 We need to keep the talent on this team and build chemistry and consistency, you don't win by gutting the team every 12 months. We need to keep the guys we have, who CAN play and build around them until we have a solid backup ready to take the reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I agree. We do need to discuss the definition of play, however. For example, Cameron is NOWHERE near a top5 TE. They should let him walk if he actually thinks he deserves that much. He deserves Greg Olsen money: 5 yrs/23m. Thomas? Mack? Bitonio? Next yr's first round OL? Pay them whatever, because they're worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leebladedawg Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 At this moment the only certainties for me would be Gipson and Sheard as we must bring them back, on a personal one I would like to see Austin back if he is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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