Browns149 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 If Hoyer keeps playing like he is, Johnny will be somewhere else anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 FUCK THAT GROVELING C U NEXT TUESDAY. We just can't celebrate our win over Pittsburgh without this dolt MKC ruining everything again? God she's a fucking bag of burden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 She's not even reporting it...she's just repeating what she heard from Bleacher Report...sheesh.....Grossi seemed certain Hoyer wasn't being difficult....he;s just deflecting because it's FOOTBALL time....not Johnny Contract talking time....he's a pro.....no worries. All the idiot reporterS(LIKE MCK) will pick it up from the AP reports and it still will get lots of air play....cause no one checks facts anymore, they just repeat, report and then react.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Johnny can sit till his contracts up. Didn't he hold out? If so good for him, hopefully it was worth it. No, he did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 FUCK THAT GROVELING C U NEXT TUESDAY. wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday? I think he meant to read closely & abbreviate! LOL Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday? Wasn't that a former Cav's coaches quote? Former. Hoyer is betting on himself, and has been even before the season started when he had all the negative tags. Career backup. Coming off major injury. I gotta admit l admire that. I don't know about this report though. I think Hoyer's a self starter, but l still think drafting Manziel turned that burner up to 11 under his ass, and so far l'm digging the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Will Hoyer give the Browns a hometown discount? He might. $20 million guaranteed (at least) will set him up for life. I didn't even think about guaranteed money... $20M as part of essentially a 4-year deal seems about right. Keep both. Dumb to even consider trading one of only 2 QBs on our current 53-man roster. Manziel is 1 play away from being our starting QB. The longer he is on the bench, the better it will be for him. Hoyer gets an extension at the end of the season, and Manziel remains backup until needed. After his rookie deal, he can either walk, we can trade him, or maybe he becomes our starter... too early to make a move here... Well, first there's Shaw sitting as well. But let's go hypothetical... There's a QB in Dallas that is at least as close to a hit away from season's end as Hoyer... Say the Big D QB gets hit first... A certain GM/ owner sees his dream season evaporating in the hands of a certain backup QB... We shall call this QB, "Wheezy"... And Farmer's phone rings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 oh jesus the poor cowboys, I forgot that guy was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?...right? C U Next Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't care if MKC is just reporting shit from another site, she's the beat reporter for the main Cleveland newspaper. She has to know this story is like dropping tacks in the locker room. The fuck is wrong with her or any other dumbass Cleveland reporter willing to repeat this tripe. Deal with this after the fucking season not now FFS. Previous poster was right, it hasn't even been a day and a half since our biggest win since 99...let us go till mid week before you chop that high off at the knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't know about this report though. I think Hoyer's a self starter, but l still think drafting Manziel turned that burner up to 11 under his ass, and so far l'm digging the results. Dunno, Ibb... I think if JM had knuckled down and learned the playbook things might be a whole lot different around Brown Town. BH really did not come on until he was given the 3rd Preseason Start and effectively the job. Until then the "competition" seemed to be getting to him. I seem to recall Pettine saying as much a little later on. Anywho... water under the dam now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Didn't you all see the Jason Cole video? In his opinion, Hoyer would not accept a contract with Manziel in Cleveland. So he thinks keeping both won't be an option if we want Hoyer long term. He also said that with every win, Hoyer gets more expensive so the sooner the Browns sign him, the better. By his theory, we could keep Hoyer one more year with a a Franchise Tag. But if we want to save money, the better idea might be to sign Hoyer and trade Manziel. Sorry, I assumed everyone knew what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Direct link to the Cole "interview" in Bleacher... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2229283-buzz-brian-hoyer-wont-agree-to-long-term-deal-with-johnny-manziel-on-roster Cole drops his little bomb near the end... "...but if Manziel is still there I don't think Hoyer is going to take a long-term deal with the presence of Manziel. I don't think it's going to play out that way according to all the people I've talked to who are involved in this." If people in the know are telling him this is Hoyer's condition for a deal, then Cole would not have to "think"... he'd know... Seems like much ado about nothing from an insider wannabe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Whole 'nother thread with links and stuff... http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30555 Did not even realize yours was based upon the same garbage reporting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't care if MKC is just reporting shit from another site, she's the beat reporter for the main Cleveland newspaper. She has to know this story is like dropping tacks in the locker room. The fuck is wrong with her or any other dumbass Cleveland reporter willing to repeat this tripe. Deal with this after the fucking season not now FFS. Previous poster was right, it hasn't even been a day and a half since our biggest win since 99...let us go till mid week before you chop that high off at the knees ^+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Whole 'nother thread with links and stuff... http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30555 Did not even realize yours was based upon the same garbage reporting... For sure Tour- some guys here are already going off on a regurgitation of unsubstantiated garbage by MKC off a freaking Bleacher Report interview? Like what are this guys sources anyway? Voices in your head, like Mike H? Remember Mike H was so damn sure Manziel was easily going to beat out Hoyer for the starting job. Do you guys realize almost any hack with a computer can sign up to post articles on Bleacher report? You can start 1\2 believing this crap if guys like Mort & Schefter start saying it on BSPN. Same BR goober who was laughing at me suggesting- just maybe, possibly- this could be another Kurt Warner situation back in April. For those old enough to remember Cheech & Chong's Sister Mary Elephant- CLASS!!!! CHILL OUT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Fuck that bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Let's just stick to the Jags. Future QB speculation is for the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ahhh come on! I can't even point out how JF fucked up a few cheerleaders and cars in college? Texas A&M does not have cheerleaders. They are male yell leaders. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hoyer's not commenting because he knows it BS. My thinking is he just wants to play football, concentrate on the Jags, and get another win. He'll deal with the JF/contract crap at the appropriate time. I can't see Hoyer making a dickhead move like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Keep both. Sign Hoyer to a new deal. Keep Johnny around while he learns the offense. If Hoyer goes down, you end up with a backup who has known only one NFL offense. No learning curve or extreme drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Didn't you all see the Jason Cole video? In his opinion, Hoyer would not accept a contract with Manziel in Cleveland. So he thinks keeping both won't be an option if we want Hoyer long term. He also said that with every win, Hoyer gets more expensive so the sooner the Browns sign him, the better. By his theory, we could keep Hoyer one more year with a a Franchise Tag. But if we want to save money, the better idea might be to sign Hoyer and trade Manziel. Sorry, I assumed everyone knew what I was talking about. No way a QB has that kind of pull unless he's elite and in tight with the Owner/GM. We also have the option of doing the Transition tag like we did with Mack - that would let the Market set his value and we could match. This whole thing all started over some Bleacher Report blurb. Some BR articles are okay, but quite a few others are just throwing crap on the wall and seeing what sticks. Seriously, I think Hoyer's smart enough to know that we need a good backup QB, especially as he's just coming back from an ACL injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElderDawg2 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 You know if I was in front office I would wait. This is a planned PR plan to make Johnny F news worthy again. If you know and watch Hoyer this junk does not sound like him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0hnnybg00d Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 After watching the vid and seeing Hoyers reaction... i think its true. Why not just say its not true if its not true? I'm thinking he is sick and tired of the whole stadium being filled with #2 jerseys. Either way i see this as a dick move on Hoyers behalf, he aint no GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 And in the distance I can hear the JM Fanboys stampeding back to the forum... After watching the vid and seeing Hoyers reaction... i think its true. There are times when I hate being right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0hnnybg00d Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lmao... you couldn't be any more wrong. I'm the biggest Hoyer homer on this forum and have been since his first game last year. I'm 41 and people can't bullshit me... if it wasn't true he would've said so but he didn't... equals a dick move. Still think he's 10 times the qb that Manziel is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 After watching the film, it sounds like a starting Quarterback being hounded by some dick reporter on a rumor. He grinned and shrugged it off, which is what anyone would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Okay, thought about this a bit more, did a little more reading/research. First, Zombo, can we get a thread merge, there are two QB threads about this running and I don't feel like jumping back an forth ? While I doubt this is true (more on this in a bit), this is really not something we need right now. This is the exact kind of crap that is going to distract the Team and cause us to lose a game we shouldn't lose (Jacksonville) because their attention was diverted to this BS. Next point you have to consider. Look at one particular statement that was made about the Mack situation this year during FA : "Alex Mack is a quality person and quality player, and he's the kind of person we want to play with the Cleveland Browns for a long time,'' said Haslam. "I personally like Alex a lot besides him being a good player. We were very frank. We want him to finish his career with the Cleveland Browns. Alex has some choices to make. At the end of the day, I think that's what he'll decide. But that's obviously his decision. Seems to me that Hoyer easily falls into this category - Brain's not going anywhere. Now more on the Hoyer / Johnny (non) story : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hoyers-agent-says-manziel-not-factor-future-021154142--nfl.html ''Although we have had no discussions with the Browns since the spring, Johnny Manziel's presence will have no impact on any discussions that we might have in the future with the team,'' Linta said in an email. ''Brian's not worried about his contract and the situation will take shape as the season progresses.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lmao... you couldn't be any more wrong. I'm the biggest Hoyer homer on this forum and have been since his first game last year. I'm 41 and people can't bullshit me... if it wasn't true he would've said so but he didn't... equals a dick move. Still think he's 10 times the qb that Manziel is. I blame your screen name... As for his reaction... if it was the third or fourth time he'd been asked, as I suspect it was, he'd already be tired of it... especially if it is not true. As DieHard did... you have to listen closely to the original "report". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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