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Here is this week's Survey. Give your answers and opinions:

 

1. Apparently, today, the NFL is going to vote to reduce overtime periods in the regular season from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Supposedly in the name of player safety. Do you think this is a good rule? Or...as was said about any such change this morning on the radio....if you are so concerned with player safety then just eliminate OT altogether and live with a few more tie games.

Thoughts?

 

 

2. What positions would you like to still see the Browns strengthen between now and the regular season..if possible?

 

 

3. Sports Illustrated has the Browns tagged as the 31st ranked team in the NFL right now. Why will they be wrong? (or right)

 

4. The NFL has not yet asked the state of Nevada to block any on line gambling of Raiders games, particularly with phone Apps...but may do so give the Raiders move there soon Appropriate? Or "old fogey" thinking?

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-hasnt-asked-nevada-block-betting-apps-raiders-stadium-165047768.html

 

 

5. The 2016 Rio Olympics lost massive amounts of money...mainly due to costs to construct new venues for the various sports. Now a proposal is on the board to limit the holding of the Olympics to just 4-5-6 cities around the world that already have most needed venues in place. (both Summer and Winter) Would this be an appropriate move? Or unfair to new communities that want to host the games. And which 4-5-6 cities should they choose?

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Here is this week's Survey. Give your answers and opinions:

 

My answers

 

1. Apparently, today, the NFL is going to vote to reduce overtime periods in the regular season from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Supposedly in the name of player safety. Do you think this is a good rule? Or...as was said about any such change this morning on the radio....if you are so concerned with player safety then just eliminate OT altogether and live with a few more tie games.

Thoughts?

Either way does not bother me. There was no OT in the regular season before 1974. I think there was an average of about 6-7 tie games a year. Maybe more in the way early years. The standings could actually be interesting if you had to factor in the ties. I think the Browns...or some other team actually won a division title on the basis of having a tie. Either way I think the teams will be more furtive and take more risks in their effort to win with a shortened or no OT. Some suggested that the one other change to the OT rule is that the other team have a crack at it, even if the team that gets the ball first scores a TD. I can go for that.

(but I HATE!!!! the college OT rule....that is a fucking bastardization of football.)

 

 

2. What positions would you like to still see the Browns strengthen between now and the regular season..if possible?

A. We talked about the OLB spot here today in another thread. Don't see any help there.

B. WR? The help we SHOULD be getting here is in those 4 rookies drafted last year stepping it up some.

C. Safety. Still seems like an area of need.

D. Well....as always QB. We have some bodies there....again, this is a case of getting those on the roster to step it up.

 

 

3. Sports Illustrated has the Browns tagged as the 31st ranked team in the NFL right now. Why will they be wrong? (or right)

While certainly I could never predict a Super Bowl...or even playoffs....I think the Browns will surprise a bit...and be very competitive all around.

 

4. The NFL has not yet asked the state of Nevada to block any on line gambling of Raiders games, particularly with phone Apps...but may do so give the Raiders move there soon Appropriate? Or "old fogey" thinking?

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-hasnt-asked-nevada-block-betting-apps-raiders-stadium-165047768.html

I'm a little "old fogey" in this regard: I don't care much one way or another. A couple of times when I went to Nevada during the football season I did lay down a flutter on the Browns...in the casino. Which to me is the only allure to the whole gambling thing (aside from regularly buying lottery tickets). Gambling on a app on your phone just seems a bit too hard core for me.

 

 

5. The 2016 Rio Olympics lost massive amounts of money...mainly due to costs to construct new venues for the various sports. Now a proposal is on the board to limit the holding of the Olympics to just 4-5-6 cities around the world that already have most needed venues in place. (both Summer and Winter) Would this be an appropriate move? Or unfair to new communities that want to host the games. And which 4-5-6 cities should they choose?

I think it is inevitable that this will have to occur. The costs of building these new venues is just absurd....and could bankrupt cities...or whole countries. Rio and Brazil are in horrible financial shape over this. Go to places that already have the infrastructure in place...and that can use these facilities on an ongoing basis.

As to where these 5-6 cities should be? I think the following should be considered:

A. Los Angeles would definitely be one of them. LA is bidding right now for the 2024 or 2028 games. And ALL the venues are in place and currently being used as it stands. The ONLY thing they have to build is like a whitewater kayaking course.

B. Two European cities could/should be chose. I would like Athens to be one...since Greece is the founder of the Olympic Games. Perhaps either London or Paris...or Barcelona for the other.

C. Sydney Australia

D. Two Asian cities also likely to be considered....probably Beijing and/or Tokyo. Tokyo is host of the next games in 2020. China will throw money at it without conscience.

E. I think both Africa and S. American cities would be out of any running

 

For the winter: Salt Lake City could easily hold another Winter games. Denver could be in the running. Calgary would seem a natural. In Europe, Innsbruck Austria's name is often mentioned. Maybe a French or Swiss city. Maybe Lillehammer...or Oslo

For Asia? Don't know. South Korea has the next games. Maybe Nagono or Sapporo Japan? Somewhere in China. Not sure about Russia...Sochi?

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1. Apparently, today, the NFL is going to vote to reduce overtime periods in the regular season from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Supposedly in the name of player safety. Do you think this is a good rule? Or...as was said about any such change this morning on the radio....if you are so concerned with player safety then just eliminate OT altogether and live with a few more tie games. Thoughts?

Either return to ties or go with the College system... splitting the difference satisfies no one.

2. What positions would you like to still see the Browns strengthen between now and the regular season..if possible?
I'll go LB... we are still thin in many areas, but our LB depth seems most lacking.

3. Sports Illustrated has the Browns tagged as the 31st ranked team in the NFL right now. Why will they be wrong? (or right)
I have no issues with 31st. I think we're a bit higher than that with the likes of SF, CHI, NYJ and LAR below us, but I can understand why Peter King put us at 31.

4. The NFL has not yet asked the state of Nevada to block any on line gambling of Raiders games, particularly with phone Apps...but may do so give the Raiders move there soon Appropriate? Or "old fogey" thinking?
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-hasnt-asked-nevada-block-betting-apps-raiders-stadium-165047768.html
Pure, old fogey... any player or official can have someone front for them... especially when it comes to phone betting... which I did not know was "a thing"...

5. The 2016 Rio Olympics lost massive amounts of money...mainly due to costs to construct new venues for the various sports. Now a proposal is on the board to limit the holding of the Olympics to just 4-5-6 cities around the world that already have most needed venues in place. (both Summer and Winter) Would this be an appropriate move? Or unfair to new communities that want to host the games. And which 4-5-6 cities should they choose?
The real question should be given the losses suffered by recently new host-cities, why would new ones want to bid on the games?

As for the selection process... the Olympic Committee can consider whatever factor they wish, but:

  • the past performance of a host city who is applying anew, should get more weight than the aspirational bid of a new venue, and...
  • bids where adverse humanitarian impacts are obvious, e.g., fund diversions and use of "forced" labor have to be downgraded.
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1. I like the college system, personally. But I don't think it would fly as constituted, as the goal seems to be shortening the extra time. I'm not sure what going from 15 min to 10min accomplishes either however. Perhaps if they went college style but limited it to one or two periods? I don't know.

 

2. Tossing a vote for WR here. I think they need another veteran playmaker on the offensive side of the ball. Britt should be alright, but he's not enough in my opinion.

 

3. Show me, show me, show me. I think it's a little short-sighted... the roster should be distinctly improved over last season. But predicting the Browns to be a shitty bottom-feeder team has sadly been far too accurate over the years. They're garbage until they prove otherwise.

 

4. Gambling is fine. Stop being such a bunch of pansies about it. Any effort to block it is futile anyway. Hell, betting on football is a big reason the sport is as popular as it is.

 

5. Limiting to a handful of cities is foolish. No guarantees that these cities would remain viable locations over the decades in between hosting. The committee should simply exercise more diligence when determining how financially apt potential hosts are before anointing them. I have a feeling there's more corruption in these decisions than sound reason.

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you really want me to try to X plain this to ya? :P well ok..OT for Skirts & Wussies--If you win the opening coin flip & defer. You get the ball 1st in OT..Just to still say your the leader of the the football world but not a follower. Play the College OT but sit the ball at the 50 for maybe some outrageous FG attempts. This may also open up the field for some deep action early in a drive.. Zane Gonzalez approves this message.but Stay thirsty our friends. Any game going to OT..Concession stands re-opens with beer half price..girls kissing their sisters could happen but not many would see it..

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Any game going to OT..Concession stands re-opens with beer half price..girls kissing their sisters could happen but not many would see it..

 

Many would pay extra to see that tho...

 

Well... not in Pittsburgh... nor Nashville... cities where it happens every family reunion... or weekend...

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Here is this week's Survey. Give your answers and opinions:

 

1. Apparently, today, the NFL is going to vote to reduce overtime periods in the regular season from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Supposedly in the name of player safety. Do you think this is a good rule? Or...as was said about any such change this morning on the radio....if you are so concerned with player safety then just eliminate OT altogether and live with a few more tie games.

Thoughts?

Yes, eliminate the OT altogether except for playoff games. OT should have died for regular season games when they implemented the 2 point conversion 20-some years ago.

 

2. What positions would you like to still see the Browns strengthen between now and the regular season..if possible?

The secondary.

 

3. Sports Illustrated has the Browns tagged as the 31st ranked team in the NFL right now. Why will they be wrong? (or right)

They will be wrong. It looks like the Browns upgraded the trenches on both sides of the ball, which should make a huge difference.

 

4. The NFL has not yet asked the state of Nevada to block any on line gambling of Raiders games, particularly with phone Apps...but may do so give the Raiders move there soon Appropriate? Or "old fogey" thinking?

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-hasnt-asked-nevada-block-betting-apps-raiders-stadium-165047768.html

Yes, appropriate/

 

5. The 2016 Rio Olympics lost massive amounts of money...mainly due to costs to construct new venues for the various sports. Now a proposal is on the board to limit the holding of the Olympics to just 4-5-6 cities around the world that already have most needed venues in place. (both Summer and Winter) Would this be an appropriate move? Or unfair to new communities that want to host the games. And which 4-5-6 cities should they choose?

Yes, appropriate, Everything I read, it says cities struggle with building new facilities to host the games. They get an influx of travel money during the games, but when it's over, they have a hard time maintaining those facilities.

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did the 1 cut roster from 90 to 53 pass?

yep, posted on nfl.com. It passed.. after preseason games about 480 players hit the street at the same time..may not favor a team coming off 1-15

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yep, posted on nfl.com. It passed.. after preseason games about 480 players hit the street at the same time..may not favor a team coming off 1-15

 

Certainly limits the "look-see" ability of cuts... but extends that of teams.

 

Can teams still "cut" at any time along the way to the now, one & only deadline?

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Certainly limits the "look-see" ability of cuts... but extends that of teams.

 

Can teams still "cut" at any time along the way to the now, one & only deadline?

still cleaning up the eraser chalk but sure i would think. some really bad apples may fall from that early tree 1st. Harvard's mod'o has been "love the ones you with" as most teams follow. But they better not trust the play maker's count. Not to many to count on O imo..I could see some strange PS deal's coming up next such as paying scoob more to stay? or was that order to go ;) BTW-the little faggots with the earrings & the make-up just cost us a good week of 1st cut board topics..the least they could do is get us some new Coors Lite Twins

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The ones that matter most, the ones that they are the worst in the NFL at. QB, RB, WR, TE.............The positions that determine if you win or not.

 

Ghoolie is right. Those positions are still suspect (except RB in my opinion). While people have been acquired....there is no confidence in some of these.

Problem is that there is really nothing out there from what I can see that would actually improve things...is there? Colin Kaepernick?

 

Fuck the Olympics. The US jacked off all over the integrity of the Olympics when they cried like cunts to allow professional athletes play. Really, who gives a flying fuck about the pretend Olympics? I don't give a cock fuck if they eliminate them altogether. The Summer Olympics for sure are the most useless, boring fucking thing next to watching Oprah Winfrey take a shit from a tree top.

6 Billion people on the planet disagree.

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still cleaning up the eraser chalk but sure i would think. some really bad apples may fall from that early tree 1st. Harvard's mod'o has been "love the ones you with" as most teams follow. But they better not trust the play maker's count. Not to many to count on O imo..I could see some strange PS deal's coming up next such as paying scoob more to stay? or was that order to go ;) BTW-the little faggots with the earrings & the make-up just cost us a good week of 1st cut board topics..the least they could do is get us some new Coors Lite Twins

 

lol... man we've come a long way. I actually "get" your posts now... most days anyway... ;)

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The ones that matter most, the ones that they are the worst in the NFL at. QB, RB, WR, TE.............The positions that determine if you win or not.

 

Ghoolie is right. Those positions are still suspect (except RB in my opinion). While people have been acquired....there is no confidence in some of these.

Problem is that there is really nothing out there from what I can see that would actually improve things...is there? Colin Kaepernick?

 

Fuck the Olympics. The US jacked off all over the integrity of the Olympics when they cried like cunts to allow professional athletes play. Really, who gives a flying fuck about the pretend Olympics? I don't give a cock fuck if they eliminate them altogether. The Summer Olympics for sure are the most useless, boring fucking thing next to watching Oprah Winfrey take a shit from a tree top.

6 Billion people on the planet disagree.

 

TE is just a question mark. Njoku may be the answer there. We don't know that yet.

Ha- Winter Olympics- the chicks LOVE the Ice Skating. Curling- man- there's an exciting "sport". :P I won't reopen the debate as to what constitutes a "sport" as opposed to a "skill". The skiers were pros before it got opened up. As to the US wanting LeBron & his pals playing in basketball- other countries had been sending their "pros" for years. Just leveled the playing field.

 

BTW, Even more people disagree about the most world-wide watched TV sporting event. The World Cup Championship game. Zombo had better get with the program there.

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1. Apparently, today, the NFL is going to vote to reduce overtime periods in the regular season from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Supposedly in the name of player safety. Do you think this is a good rule? Or...as was said about any such change this morning on the radio....if you are so concerned with player safety then just eliminate OT altogether and live with a few more tie games.


Thoughts?



Keep it 15




2. What positions would you like to still see the Browns strengthen between now and the regular season..if possible?



None.




3. Sports Illustrated has the Browns tagged as the 31st ranked team in the NFL right now. Why will they be wrong? (or right)



We will win the AFC North







4. The NFL has not yet asked the state of Nevada to block any on line gambling of Raiders games, particularly with phone Apps...but may do so give the Raiders move there soon Appropriate? Or "old fogey" thinking?


https://sports.yahoo...-165047768.html



Don't care.




5. The 2016 Rio Olympics lost massive amounts of money...mainly due to costs to construct new venues for the various sports. Now a proposal is on the board to limit the holding of the Olympics to just 4-5-6 cities around the world that already have most needed venues in place. (both Summer and Winter) Would this be an appropriate move? Or unfair to new communities that want to host the games. And which 4-5-6 cities should they choose?



Yes, good system. Rome, LA, Paris, Tokyo, London, Sydney


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Yes, good system. Rome, LA, Paris, Tokyo, London, Sydney

 

Tough sledding in all those locations... ;)

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Fuck the winter Olympics.

 

Everybody can go sled down a hill in Edmonton or something.

 

Zombo

Calgary would be better. ;) Edmonton is on a prairie, Calgary is close to mountains. I have been to both. I have been to the Olympic Bobsled run in Calgary. (also the one in Park City Utah used for 2002)

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Fuck the winter Olympics.

 

Everybody can go sled down a hill in Edmonton or something.

 

Zombo

 

Says the man from the land of Palm Trees. Trust me- ramping up to 1\2 the speed those downhill guys go at will cause blank terror thinking about what's going to happen if you crash.

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Personally I prefer watching the Winter games...

 

Except for all the "X-games" bullshit...

 

X Games in general are for guys and gals with a death wish. Like how many 360s can you do before you bust yourself up?

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X Games in general are for guys and gals with a death wish. Like how many 360s can you do before you bust yourself up?

 

Me? Not quite half of one... and falling...

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Yes, 6 Billion people who can't keep the Olympics from losing money. The Olympics blow. They are a fucking abomination to the intended spirit of the games. The ratings are dwindling, advertising dollars are down, and so is the audience. Nobody gives a rats nasty ass shit for the Olympics. They blow.

 

Several of these things are untrue: Ratings/advertising dollars and the audiences are NOT down. But, yes, lots of money is lost by the cities/countries that have to invest Oh so much in the infrastructure for the venues. That is the reason for the proposal for holding the games in limited numbers of cities that already have basically all the infrastructure in place. Only like a kayak or canoeing venue has to be constructed for LA should they get the games.

As for the spirit of the games? I assume you are referring to the fact that originally the athletes were supposed to be amateurs, and now they are not. Well, you can blame Communism for that. The USSR had all professional athletes playing....it was just supposedly they had other jobs. They were "members of the military" or some such tripe. They were professionals. So it was long ago determined to do away with the archaic "amateur" rules....and let the best athletes perform.

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