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2016 Week 8 AP Top 25

 

RK TEAM REC PTS TREND (+/-)

1 Alabama(60) 7-0 1524

2 Ohio State 6-0 1457 <--- OSU lost all #1 votes

3 Michigan(1) 6-0 1368 1 <--- "m" got one

4 Clemson 7-0 1337 1

5 Washington 6-0 1304

6 Texas A&M 6-0 1218

7 Louisville 5-1 1168

8 Nebraska 6-0 1037 2

9 Baylor 6-0 1021 2

10 Wisconsin 4-2 935 2 <--- still 4 B1G in top 10

11 Houston 6-1 766 2

12 West Virginia 5-0 744 8

13 Florida State 5-2 733 1

14 Boise State 6-0 694 1

15 Florida 5-1 626 3

16 Oklahoma 4-2 612 3

17 Arkansas 5-2 584 5

18 Tennessee 5-2 550 9

19 Utah 6-1 479 2

20 Western Michigan7-0 285 4 <--- WM?

21 Auburn 4-2 277 2

22 North Carolina 5-2 254 NR

23 Ole Miss 3-3 188 11

24 Navy 4-1 163 1

25 LSU 4-2 123 NR <--- hey LSU back from the dead, below NAVY

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Dropped from rankings: Miami 16, Virginia Tech 17

 

Others receiving votes: Colorado 110, Miami 69, Oklahoma State 47, Washington State 39, Virginia Tech 38, South Florida 31, Stanford 15, Iowa 7, Arizona State 6, USC 5, NC State 4, San Diego State 3, Pittsburgh 2, TCU 1, Troy 1

 

Only IOWA in B1G in other, the underbelly of the B1G is indeed soft this year. Where's Michigan State?

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2016 Week 8 AP Top 25

 

RK TEAM REC PTS TREND (+/-)

1 Alabama(60) 7-0 1524

2 Ohio State 6-0 1457 <--- OSU lost all #1 votes

3 Michigan(1) 6-0 1368 1 <--- "m" got one

4 Clemson 7-0 1337 1

5 Washington 6-0 1304

6 Texas A&M 6-0 1218

7 Louisville 5-1 1168

8 Nebraska 6-0 1037 2

9 Baylor 6-0 1021 2

10 Wisconsin 4-2 935 2 <--- still 4 B1G in top 10

11 Houston 6-1 766 2

12 West Virginia 5-0 744 8

13 Florida State 5-2 733 1

14 Boise State 6-0 694 1

15 Florida 5-1 626 3

16 Oklahoma 4-2 612 3

17 Arkansas 5-2 584 5

18 Tennessee 5-2 550 9

19 Utah 6-1 479 2

20 Western Michigan7-0 285 4 <--- WM?

21 Auburn 4-2 277 2

22 North Carolina 5-2 254 NR

23 Ole Miss 3-3 188 11

24 Navy 4-1 163 1

25 LSU 4-2 123 NR <--- hey LSU back from the dead, below NAVY

As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.

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Dropped from rankings: Miami 16, Virginia Tech 17

 

Others receiving votes: Colorado 110, Miami 69, Oklahoma State 47, Washington State 39, Virginia Tech 38, South Florida 31, Stanford 15, Iowa 7, Arizona State 6, USC 5, NC State 4, San Diego State 3, Pittsburgh 2, TCU 1, Troy 1

 

Only IOWA in B1G in other, the underbelly of the B1G is indeed soft this year. Where's Michigan State?

Four losses. Not a good year for them.

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As I see it ONLY those I have highlighted have any realistic chance of winning the National Championship.

Wow 12 teams that's a pretty broad brush -but- it might be a wild end of year with teams knocking other teams out of final four contention. Alabama seems to have the closest thing to a pass to get in but you never know.

 

OSU/m winner might get one.

WASH if they beat Utah at Utah.

And the final candidate and there might be several trying to get in.

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Wow 12 teams that's a pretty broad brush -but- it might be a wild end of year with teams knocking other teams out of final four contention. Alabama seems to have the closest thing to a pass to get in but you never know.

 

OSU/m winner might get one.

WASH if they beat Utah at Utah.

And the final candidate and there might be several trying to get in.

Well, these are the only ones I believe have a chance....some of those are admittedly fairly remote. Say Utah has one loss...and beats Washington and win the Pac12... they could get in the tournament.

WVa/Baylor go undefeated and get bid.

Nebraska goes undefeated....beats OSU/Mich. winner....they get Bid.

Florida with only 1 loss by chance wins all the rest of their games.....including SEC title game...they're in.

Ala/Tex A&M play each other this week, no?

L-ville wins out in ACC, they get a chance...no?

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COLLEGE Pers. C HF - COLLEGE POWER RATINGS - WEEK 8 - So here you are....

Air Force 42 4 3

Akron 30 3 2

Alabama 65 5 4 <---- highest on the board

Appalachn St. 41 4 4

Arizona 38 3 3

Arizona St. 42 3 3

Arkansas 49 3 4

Arkansas St. 31 3 3

Army 34 3 3

Auburn 51 4 3

Ball St 29 3 3

Baylor 53 3 4

Boise St 50 3 4

Boston Col. 38 3 3

Bowling Grn 25 3 3

Buffalo 21 3 2

B.Y.U. 47 3 4

California 44 3 3

Central Fla 34 4 3

Cent Mich 40 3 3

Cincinnati 41 4 4

Clemson 59 4 4 <---- the next level

Colorado 46 4 3

Colorado St 31 3 4

Connecticut 38 3 3

Duke 39 4 3

East Carolina 39 3 4

East Mich 25 3 2

Florida 45 3 4

Florida Atl 27 3 2

Florida Int. 23 3 2

Florida St. 55 4 4

COLLEGE Pers. C HF

Fresno St. 22 2 3

Georgia 49 4 4

Georgia Sou 42 4 4

Georgia St. 26 3 2

Georgia Tech 42 4 3

Hawaii 30 3 3

Houston 52 5 3

Idaho 23 2 3

Illinois 35 3 3

Indiana 42 3 3

Iowa 46 4 4

Iowa St. 35 3 3

Kansas 24 2 3

Kansas St. 45 4 4

Kent 26 2 2

Kentucky 35 2 2

LA-Lafayette 26 4 3

LA-Monroe 17 3 2

Lousiana Tech 40 4 4

Louisville 58 4 4

LSU 52 3 4

Marshall 32 4 4

Maryland 40 4 3

Mass 18 3 1

Memphis 43 3 3

Miami-Fla. 48 4 3

Miami Ohio 23 3 2

Michigan 57 4 4 <---- in at 57

Michigan St. 44 4 4

Mid Tenn St. 39 3 4

Minnesota 40 3 4

Mississipi 52 4 4

COLLEGE Pers. C HF

Mississippi St. 43 4 3

Missouri 41 3 3

Navy 37 4 3

NC Charlotte 15 3 2

Nebraska 50 3 4

Nevada 26 2 4

New Mexico 27 4 2

New Mex St. 20 3 1

North Carolina 51 4 3

N.C. State 44 4 3

North Texas 17 3 2

No Illinois 31 4 4

Northwestern 42 4 3

Notre Dame 48 3 4

Ohio U 30 3 3

Ohio St. 59 5 4 <---- tied with Clemson

Oklahoma 54 3 5

Oklahoma St. 48 4 4

Old Dominion 22 3 3

Oregon 43 3 5

Oregon St. 29 3 3

Penn St. 40 2 4

Pittsburgh 44 4 3

Purdue 31 2 3

Rice 23 4 2

Rutgers 27 3 3

San Diego St. 43 4 3

San Jose St. 30 3 2

S.M.U. 26 3 2

South Alabama 30 3 3

South Carolina 38 3 4

South Florida 47 4 4

COLLEGE Pers. C HF

Southern Cal 49 3 3

Southern Miss 41 3 3

Stanford 49 4 3

Syracuse 35 4 3

Temple 39 4 3

Tennessee 53 3 4

Texas 48 4 4

Texas A&M 54 3 4 <--- T A&M 54?

T.C.U. 50 4 4

Texas El-Paso 24 3 3

Texas SA 24 3 3

Texas State 22 3 3

Texas Tech 40 3 4

Toledo 45 4 3

Troy 36 4 3

Tulane 26 4 3

Tulsa 37 4 4

UCLA 47 3 3

UNLV 24 3 2

Utah 47 4 4

Utah St. 35 3 4

Vanderbilt 37 3 3

Virginia 37 4 3

Virginia Tech 47 3 4

Wake Forest 35 3 3

Washington 54 4 4 <--- also 54

Washington St. 47 4 3

West Virginia 48 3 4

West Kentucky 40 4 4

Western Mich 45 4 4

Wisconsin 49 4 5

Wyoming 30 4 4

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I think Washington has a random upset coming. So the Pac 12 will be left out. I highly doubt WV runs the table. Same with Baylor (and the committee may be licking their chops to leave out an undefeated Baylor that didn't play conference championship game or anyone tough in non-con, anyway). I have a hard time seeing Clemson run the table but they may be like FSU 14. Manage to go undefeated but highly vulnerable in the playoffs.

 

Teams with playoff chances IMO:

O State

Michigan

Alabama

A&M

Clemson

Louisville

 

Like I said, Washington gets a loss, so they're out. The two Big 12 undefeateds get a loss, so they're out. That leaves your undefeated and one-loss teams from the B1G, SEC, and ACC. If the loser of Alabama-A&M and Michigan-O State finish 11-1 and the winners finish undefeated, which of those two do you put in a playoff? Loser of Michigan-O State would be finishing the year with a loss while the loser of Alabama-A&M would be finishing the year with a win over Auburn or LSU, respectively. Or do you put an 11-1 Louisville in there?

 

Regardless, we always talk in mid-October about the chaos to come, but this thing usually sorts itself out fairly easily. There will be upsets aplenty in the top 10.

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I think Washington has a random upset coming. So the Pac 12 will be left out. I highly doubt WV runs the table. Same with Baylor (and the committee may be licking their chops to leave out an undefeated Baylor that didn't play conference championship game or anyone tough in non-con, anyway). I have a hard time seeing Clemson run the table but they may be like FSU 14. Manage to go undefeated but highly vulnerable in the playoffs.

 

Teams with playoff chances IMO:

O State

Michigan

Alabama

A&M

Clemson

Louisville

 

Like I said, Washington gets a loss, so they're out. The two Big 12 undefeateds get a loss, so they're out. That leaves your undefeated and one-loss teams from the B1G, SEC, and ACC. If the loser of Alabama-A&M and Michigan-O State finish 11-1 and the winners finish undefeated, which of those two do you put in a playoff? Loser of Michigan-O State would be finishing the year with a loss while the loser of Alabama-A&M would be finishing the year with a win over Auburn or LSU, respectively. Or do you put an 11-1 Louisville in there?

 

Regardless, we always talk in mid-October about the chaos to come, but this thing usually sorts itself out fairly easily. There will be upsets aplenty in the top 10.

You are making like a frog and jumping to conclusions...or as they now say, you are making WAGs.

You presume that Wash will have a loss. You presume that both Baylor and WVa. will have a loss.

You apparently also presume that Nebraska will lose.

Certainly all of these things could happen, but they are speculations, and shouldn't be presumed.

My list of 12 includes anyone with an outside chance at this point. And 12....only half way through the season, is a pretty small number. And yes, it could be pared down. The loser of A&M/Bama (though...in my opinion, the committee won't ever dismiss East Germany...they are too much in love with them)

Utah could lose to UCLA. TCU could up end WVa.

It would be a serious major upset if anyone else were to lose...the Big Ten and ACC schools and Wash.

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Of the 4 B1G schools currently in the top 10 with the championship game I figure 1 gets in unless they're ranked 1/2 or 2/3 after the regular season.

 

BTW this week's B1G games have ZERO elimination games. Only game of interest to me is OSU -19' at Happy Valley. Wisconsin -3' at Iowa might be interesting.

 

Washington has the lucky bad conference season and may win out.

 

The SEC is somewhat interesting this week T A&M at ALA -18'....do they cover?

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You are making like a frog and jumping to conclusions...or as they now say, you are making WAGs.

You presume that Wash will have a loss. You presume that both Baylor and WVa. will have a loss.

You apparently also presume that Nebraska will lose.

Certainly all of these things could happen, but they are speculations, and shouldn't be presumed.

My list of 12 includes anyone with an outside chance at this point. And 12....only half way through the season, is a pretty small number. And yes, it could be pared down. The loser of A&M/Bama (though...in my opinion, the committee won't ever dismiss East Germany...they are too much in love with them)

Utah could lose to UCLA. TCU could up end WVa.

It would be a serious major upset if anyone else were to lose...the Big Ten and ACC schools and Wash.

 

Check back with me in two months. There will be, at most, three undefeated teams. And gun to my head right now, there will probably only be 1-2.

 

See I can actually make a prediction, rather than highlighting really obvious things (like 0 and 1-loss teams from the P5) and making a really obvious statement (like the national champion will be one of them).

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Of the 4 B1G schools currently in the top 10 with the championship game I figure 1 gets in unless they're ranked 1/2 or 2/3 after the regular season.

 

BTW this week's B1G games have ZERO elimination games. Only game of interest to me is OSU -19' at Happy Valley. Wisconsin -3' at Iowa might be interesting.

 

Washington has the lucky bad conference season and may win out.

 

The SEC is somewhat interesting this week T A&M at ALA -18'....do they cover?

 

I give us a 60-40 shot of covering. About a 20% chance of winning. I head to Tuscaloosa tomorrow night. Can't wait!

 

Our team was well on the way to blowing UT out in the same way Alabama did. I believe it was 28-7 and we were driving. But our entire team just kind of shut down. Furthermore, Alabama was basically playing UT's backup defensive line last week. I've never seen more injuries than I have in the SEC this year. Tennessee was down like 10 of their major contributors.

 

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I'll be rooting for the Aggies

A lot of people across America will be rooting for the Aggies. :lol:

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Check back with me in two months. There will be, at most, three undefeated teams. And gun to my head right now, there will probably only be 1-2.

 

See I can actually make a prediction, rather than highlighting really obvious things (like 0 and 1-loss teams from the P5) and making a really obvious statement (like the national champion will be one of them).

Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).

Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.

 

Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.

Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.

A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.

 

Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.

 

1. Winner of Big Ten round robin

2. Winner of A&M/Alabama

3. Big 12 Champ

4. Clemson out of ACC

5. Washington out of Pac 12

 

In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.

 

I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.

Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.

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I'm a Gator fan but believe me, the Gators have NO shot..

I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?

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I understand. All I am saying is that there is the dumb and dumber "so you say there's a chance" situation. Say Fla. does go undefeated the rest of the way....one loss.....not probable, but plausible...and they beat the SEC West winner...ergo ending up SEC Champ (and all other SEC teams also having a loss). They go to the playoff, don't they? How could they be denied? (unless there are undefeateds from the other 4 P5 conferences) Do you think under any circumstances these days that the Committee would not take a team from the SEC?

OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?

 

Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)

 

Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?

 

And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right. :lol:

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OR maybe just maybe the stuck in the 19?? D-1A football powers will actually do what every other college sport does and have a REAL playoff system which could very easily be incorporated into the now largely semi to grossly empty bowl system and their 6-6, 7-6 teams?

 

Even we knuckleheads here could figure out how to run it, start with the top 16 or at least 8 teams and seed away. (Or just cheat and look how the D-1AA has been doing it for decades.)

 

Who wouldn't want to go see ALA, OSU, TAM, CLEM, etc. in a first round game instead of UTEP vs NM or other snoozers?

 

And bravo for going to 4 teams you've got it 25% right. :lol:

The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.

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The other divisions FCS, II and III have 16 team playoffs.

And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.

 

D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.

 

Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.

 

Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.

 

Change can be good, beats extinction. ;)

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Your statements are nothing but obvious. Sure there will only be 3 or fewer undefeated teams. Any moron can predict that. anyone with an opinion or an asshole can predict anything. (I assume you mean major undefeated teams....not Boise St. and W. Mich.).

Aside from those two, there are only 9 undefeated now.

 

Ohio St./Mich/Nebraska will have to play a round robin of sorts....so only 1 at most of them can come out of the Big Ten unscathed.

Baylor and WVa. will play, eliminating one.

A&M and Alabama play...eliminating one.

 

Would you take a bolder move and predict that there would be 4..or 5 undefeated? In theory that could happen.

 

1. Winner of Big Ten round robin

2. Winner of A&M/Alabama

3. Big 12 Champ

4. Clemson out of ACC

5. Washington out of Pac 12

 

In theory, this could definitely happen. The only thing to prevent it is for there to be a major/minor upset. Like FSU beating Clemson in ACC title game.

 

I will make the bolder, more daring prediction: there will be 5 undefeateds, one each from the P5 Conferences.

Now...predict which 4 of those 5 the Committee will take into the 4 team playoffs.

 

Not gonna happen. And if you'd actually watch some college football you'd know that. We'll see.

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Not gonna happen. And if you'd actually watch some college football you'd know that. We'll see.

I am talking obviously in possibilities, not probabilities (do you not get that?).

 

So, who on their schedule is going to beat Washington? At Utah may be the only chance.

 

Who on Clemson schedule is going to beat them? Florida State is the last viable option...and you saw what Louisville did to them.

 

And who is going to beat Alabama? You guys? And if you do, then who is going to beat youans? (maybe LSU...but y'all aught to be favored big there.....the East winner?

 

Who is going to beat the winner of Baylor/WVa? Well, Oklahoma could beat either for sure.

 

Whose gonna beat the OSU/Mich winner? Nebraska? Then who is going to beat them? (actually, they will play both OSU and Wisconsin in the regular season....they won't win both if either of those games.

 

There could still easily be 4: Bama/Clemson/Wash/ Ohio State-Mich winner. There is my prediction for the Field of Four.

 

And I do know that because I watch enough of it...and it is a logical prediction.

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And great playoffs in hockey, baseball and other sports including the mother of all playoffs March Madness.

 

D-1A football has always been a pet peeve of mine with their flimsy excuses. Preserve the bowls? There's too many or too many empty bowls. Too many games? Well half go home after one playoff game.

 

Truth is there are the old "fiefdoms" of the old guard protecting their old bowls. They just can't see a better way, they better do it before the bowls just start to fold on their own.

 

Remember the old B1G and their old, old rules? No freshman players play, no redshirts, no JUCOs, the antiquated Rose Bowl setup? Even they begrudgingly changed their ways.....when the B1G was slipping badly.

 

Change can be good, beats extinction. ;)

 

couldn't you still use the bowl games in a playoff format ? or would they say that is just to many games for the players cause (cough cough) they would miss to much class time

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couldn't you still use the bowl games in a playoff format ? or would they say that is just to many games for the players cause (cough cough) they would miss to much class time

Absolutely the bowl season starts in early December and runs into January.

 

With 16 teams you need 8 round one games, 4 round two, 2 round three and 1 National Championship Game. The current bowls could absorb part or all of them, maybe the 8 round one as the upper seed home games, whatever.

 

Missed classes? They've been doing this for many decades already in football and it's only a few seeded teams anyway 16 to 8 to 4 to 2.

 

Ask the players if they mind playing for a championship? And they should have done this BEFORE all the conferences decided to have their own championship games many years back.

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I'll be rooting for the Aggies

 

This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.

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This is the deepest and best overall Bama team I have ever seen. A&M will be fortunate to come close to covering the 17 whatever point spread. These guys are going to roll everybody this year OSU included if they end up playing.

Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.

 

I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never. ;)

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Right now beating Bama would require a whole set of weird things to happen in one game like bad calls, strange ball bounces, a really fired up road opponent, suspensions, injuries (although great teams tend to be deep) and who knows what else. Plus the elite coaches (Saban, Meyer et. al.) tend to negate those types of distractions.

 

I'd put Ala -7 vs OSU on a neutral field right now, maybe more. But in sports never say never. ;)

 

And as you may be seeing today, -7 is a major underestimation of Bama.

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