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Tim Kaine has deep ties to radical Islam


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no comment from one lib? any lib?

 

uh....huh.

 

How 'bout an Independent... albeit a "liberal as hell compared to the assembled crowd so far" guy?

 

Lot of threads to pull on there, cal... Takes time to do so vs. posting links or mutually congratulatory one-liners. But lucky for you I've changed my travel plans and thus can play a little so here's one thread effort...

 

The "federal court filings" link in the OP article leads to a sizeable pdf of a report from the "Investigative Project on Terrorism" (IPT) and a case that seems to be about whether an American Muslim lied to a grand jury and/or the FBI about some terrorist training he may or may not during an investigation which was appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.

 

Footnotes (more threads) refer to both:

- a long Chicago Tribune Article, http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/chi-0409190261sep19-story.html ; and

- a 2nd report by the IPT, http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/479.pdf .

 

Around 75% of the ChiTrib article details the genesis of a Muslim Brotherhood group in the states. A group called simply The Brotherhood (or Ikhwan) dedicated to the expansion of Muslim states around the world and ultimately here. The last quarter or so of the article gets to discussion of at least a partial splintering of the group which spawns MAS, the group with which the "controversial" Kaine appointee was associated. The difference MAS maintains is that while they do support the establishment of foreign Islamic states, they hold no such aspirations here.

 

The truth of this difference is the wellspring of any controversy. A Wiki-look at MAS's activities, publications and projects, suggests there may be a difference. However, other sections of their page suggest less of one.

 

Interestingly the Investigative Project states the title of the ChiTrib article as:

"The New Face of the Muslim Brotherhood - The Muslim American Society"

While the actual title from ChiTrib's own archive is:

"A rare look at secretive Brotherhood in America"

The slant of the change promoted tugging on another thread... What is "The Investigative Project"? Wiki?

 

Turns out that IPT was founded by Steve Emerson who produced a documentary titled, "Terrorists Among Us: Jihad in America", which originally aired on PBS' "Frontline" in '94. Subsequently he rose fast as a "Terrorism expert", giving expert testimony in Congressional hearings among other things, before falling almost as fast as he rose.

 

His fall seems to have been in large part do to seeing Muslim responsibility for violence everywhere, e.g, jumping to the conclusion that they were responsible for the OKC bombing. Additionally scrutiny of his original claim to fame, the documentary, came under criticism for skewing FBI sourced material.

 

But he's still around... Recently British PM David Cameron publicly called him "a complete idiot" for saying Birmingham was a Muslim city when it's less than a quarter Muslim. (Wasn't there a thread here on that?) Comments on Fox News about "Muslim Police" patrolling London and beating people not dressed to Muslim standards. In all FNC was forced to make four apologies for reporting based on Emerson's remarks.

 

 

So at the end of all this tread pulling what do I see besides a knotted pile of threads on the floor and a couple less hours in the morning for me to do what I could have be doing?

 

Dubious sources...

... who have produced dubious claims...

... ginning up a non-controversy about an appointee to an obscure, Virginia committee...

... that may not have been fully vetted by some Junior staffer to a governor.

 

A governor who asked for, and received, the appointee's resignation rather than let the story impact the work of the committee.

 

All this in 2007...

Hurt Kaine so badly that he won another statewide election in 2012.

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