DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 13 for 24? Alright sure he is great, I love missing wide open touchdowns, and overthrowing our 6'5 TE, I especially love left handed throws!! Besides the fact that you can't deny that he is always taking a bee line out of the pocket, he simply can't see. Just shut the fuck up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just shut the fuck up already. Lol do you ever have coherent thoughts? Despite if you think I'm wrong, JFF did all of those things yesterday, you can't deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Lol do you ever have coherent thoughts? Despite if you think I'm wrong, JFF did all of those things yesterday, you can't deny it. The left handed throw out of bounds was a smart play. Please, tell me what you would rather have him do in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 13 for 24? Alright sure he is great, I love missing wide open touchdowns, and overthrowing our 6'5 TE, I especially love left handed throws!! Besides the fact that you can't deny that he is always taking a bee line out of the pocket, he simply can't see. He had runs negated by penalties. He had 1st down throws negated by penalties. He had 3 drops. And another bounced off Hawkins' finger tips. Even many Johnny haters are saying he had a pretty decent game, sans turnovers. You're on an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 He had runs negated by penalties. He had 1st down throws negated by penalties. He had 3 drops. And another bounced off Hawkins' finger tips. Even many Johnny haters are saying he had a pretty decent game, sans turnovers. You're on an island. Decent for Johnny, any other starting QB in the NFL this was a horrible game, besides maybe Jameis or whoever is starting for the Jags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 You're not qualified for discussion at a big boy level. So that's the last 20 seconds I waste on you. Good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Decent for Johnny, any other starting QB in the NFL this was a horrible game, besides maybe Jameis or whoever is starting for the Jags Ie the people he should be compared to right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 loved johnny yesterday, when he first came in. i think he looked really good for the short time i had the tv on (before i tossed it out the window). fucking dray whiffing on that first pass killed us and mccown didn't do us any favors diving on the hand grenade that turned into a bouncing betty. momentum and attitude are everything and we loss both with stupid self inflicted wounds. if i was haslam i wouldn't have let pettine and co. get on the plane. nothing like firing or anything, just come back next week when you want to prepare your team to play in this league. a gimme win lost. try making that up with this schedule. sorry. not trying to be a soju or anything but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 You're not qualified for discussion at a big boy level. So that's the last 20 seconds I waste on you. Good luck to you! What? I'm saying things that actually happened, you just get your buddies to ask me to shut the fuck up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 What? I'm saying things that actually happened, you just get your buddies to ask me to shut the fuck up lol Mike H has no friends here. he was the original Retard lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thought the same thing. No one is asking you to shut the fuck up because they're my friend, it's because you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thought the same thing. No one is asking you to shut the fuck up because they're my friend, it's because you're an idiot. Nothing I said was wrong lol, and you give no rebutle, you just say Johnny didn't suck total ass, so that's good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 True. But, as I said, this post was more pointed at the people in here who chimed in with "Mariota is a scrub from a gimmick offense" or "can't run around people in the NFL" or "won't be able to throw to wide open receivers on Sundays". Mariota looked the part yesterday. He was efficient, he made solid reads, and he aired the ball out - exactly as I, and others, predicted that he could do. As for what we would have had to give up to get him...it likely would have been more than that. But after yesterday's performance, I think I would have gladly given up Shelton, Erving, Orchard and Haden for a QB who could put together a 4 TD - 81.3% - 158.3 day. Say I'm overreacting all you want, but I did my due diligence with Mariota throughout the draft process and he confirmed the beliefs that I had. He'll be a very good NFL QB. LOL, as Treebeard said in Lord of the Rings- "don't be hasty". One good game against last year's cellar dweller team does not a career make. Derek Anderson looked like a stud until opposing Defensive coordinators figured out all he had was a fastball, with no change up. Mariota has to prove a ton yet in my book before I'll say he was worth the #2 overall pick. Even RG Knee looked like the real deal until it was proven he was a China Doll. Sam Bradford is in the same boat, years down the road. He had runs negated by penalties. He had 1st down throws negated by penalties. He had 3 drops. And another bounced off Hawkins' finger tips. Even many Johnny haters are saying he had a pretty decent game, sans turnovers. You're on an island. I'll say JF looks much improved. Keep up the good work kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Look forward to eating his lunch Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 he needs to eat. so does duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I never put my money behind Weeden. And I won't put anything behind Cook until I see what he does this year. But I did put my money behind Mariota, and he looked awfully damn good yesterday. As I said before, just because he ran in Oregon doesn't mean he can't throw in the NFL. Mariota? You have been hyping Winston for the past 2 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Mariota? You have been hyping Winston for the past 2 years... not really. couch touted bortles if anyone. gotta give him credit on the mariota thing. hell who wouldn't want that kid now that he looks great in game action? shows you how much jon gruden knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Nothing I said was wrong lol, and you give no rebutle, you just say Johnny didn't suck total ass, so that's good enoughI gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now McCown looked better then all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Mariota? You have been hyping Winston for the past 2 years... I've been "hyping" both, I guess you could say. I've been vocal about Winston's off field transgressions being less than what people made them out to be, and how he is almost the perfect prospect. I've been vocal about how Mariota could have a very similar skill set to Aaron Rodgers, despite some people claiming he's a gimmick. I'll admit I was higher on Winston than Mariota at first. I was even anti Mariota. But when I actually did my own research and stopped listening to what ESPN told me, I saw more to be excited about and less to be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Yes, you got on board early. Despite our JFF experience, the whole "play call" thing has always seemed overblown to me, but the ease with which MM has added under-center, QB play to his pistol/shotgun repertoire has surprised me. Mike H has no friends here. Beat me to it... I gave a rebuttal, because I watched the game and charted Manziel. Looked better than Bridgewater does right now Could always just scan and post your chart... Bridgewater's too for comparison. Big time savers... JM's performance was a very mixed bag to my eye. Early he had successes like a very early hot read and spotting Benji breaking open. Missing Hawkins was not a product of a ball thrown too high... it was thrown too wide by a QB whose strengths are supposed to include throwing on the run... even to the left. Then it seemed as if the Jets went to their Defending JM chapter and the good waned. The INT throw was straight out of 2014... late and to the inside. Not sure, but I think it was a blind throw to an estimated spot. One of the two fumbles were even more concerning. He set up the one where he bailed to his right and stopped. in doing so he created a total blind side in which he simply stood too long, setting up the strip-sack. The other fumble was simply a matter of a stronger defender punching the ball from the grip of a weaker player. It was a good, opportunistic defensive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'd like to think after that steaming turd we laid week one that after watching film and being at home the defense will disrupt Mariota. Just hope the offense can sustain drives and keep the defense off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 If you think little Johnny was a bright spot you deserve to watch an entire season with him as the starting QB and amassing more negative stats than any QB in history. He was you fucking nimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 He was you fucking nimrod Outside of a deep strike...? No, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 63 comp | 97 att | 63% | 833 yards | 8 TD | 2 INT | 109.2 Rating 8th in yards. 4th in TD's. 7th in rating. 4th in 1st Down % 1st in 20+ yard completions. Already has one perfect game. Oh, and guess what? He did all this while still being sacked 12 times, because his offensive line is worse than anything we currently have. Just your friendly reminder, to those who said he'd be a failure. I will eat my crow on one thing, however, because Winston is looking plenty mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The Titans were NOT giving that pick up unless someone offered 3-4 1st rounders. No prospect is worth that especially after the RG3 debacle. Mariota is going to be good for a very very long time I'm afraid. Another team lands a FQB and our stubborn head coach won't see if we have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Incorrect. The Titans were not giving up that pick -- full stop. No "unless" anything -- they weren't giving up that pick, period. You can't force anyone to accept something you propose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Incorrect. The Titans were not giving up that pick -- full stop. No "unless" anything -- they weren't giving up that pick, period. You can't force anyone to accept something you propose. You're right. I remember Chip Kelly saying something the asking price was though the roof. Titans weren't budging. A franchise QB for 10-15 years is invaluable to a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The Titans were NOT giving that pick up unless someone offered 3-4 1st rounders. No prospect is worth that especially after the RG3 debacle. Mariota is going to be good for a very very long time I'm afraid. Another team lands a FQB and our stubborn head coach won't see if we have one. They were not giving up the pick regardless. However, the point of this thread is to continually remind those that thought Mariota was a "gimmick QB with no NFL future" that they were wrong. It's not to lament missing out on him, there's enough of that on every other forum on the internet. Mariota is poised to be a very similar player as Aaron Rodgers. Similar arm talent, vaguely similar demeanor, similar attributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 0 and 1 against Johnny Manziel head to head. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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