MLD Woody

I'd like to agree with you, I'd like to think that's the case, but we have people like cal and his posts above that kill that belief for me. An individual recycling and making a compost pile is great, but it won't make any real impact. Oil and gas companies invested in and pushed the narrative of personal responsibility around the environment and climate change. Why? To direct the attention away from them. They've known for decades the damage they're causing but short term profits beat long term (next generations) damage. These large corporations, those that stand to gain from the status quo, will funnel money into right wing think tanks, which produce "reports" that right wing media rolls with. No topic on this board has seen a higher level of fake experts touted than climate change. A personal favorite of cals being a list of "scientists" from 15 years ago that I could be on... Another angle being not a fake expert, but the complete misinterpretation of actual climate research and studies. Basically every time I've taken the time to dig into the mountain of links cal or someone else vomits up the claims can be debunked in a few minutes. But the problem is there is so much misinformation (actual misinformation, not "news that trump doesn't like" misinformation) out there that regular people just see the headlines and don't do any digging. Even if debunked later those readers are long gone. Look at what Girls posted. Public polls on climate change. I'm not surprised less people care. I imagine it's along party lines too since the issue has been politicized. I don't really care what the public thinks on this matter though, most are scientifically illiterate. We're a country that is hostile to actual expertise and we'll suffer as a result.

Right, "scientists", and now we enter the anti expert, anti academic, anti science portion of our programming ... He doesn't speak for the scientists. Whatever he chose to politicize, whatever the news put in headlines, whatever this group chose to selectively remember and consume.... None of it matters. Facts matter. The facts are clear.

I don't give a shit what Al Gore says I give a shit what a consensus of climatologists and reputable scientific organizations across the globe say I give a shit what the data says

Bike lanes and roundabouts aren't going to save us from ourselves. The data is clear, the science is clear, whether everyday folks believe it or not. Intervention and regulation is needed, but this stands to lose powerful people lots of money. Hence money funneling into conservative politicians and efforts to politicize the whole issue. Now you can "own the libs" by being anti climate change efforts. The politicization of scientific issues just hurts us as a whole. If not now, later. Of course, a big chunk of the voters hurting us now won't be around later to deal with the damage they've caused.

In two weeks I could sing just as poorly as you could teach geometry

Well said. Regarding the right wing politicization of green energy, you have to wonder what's driving that. I'd guess we could follow a money trail back to oil and gas companies. And for that reason, among others,bi disagree that government doesn't need to lead the charge. Govt needs to be heavily involved to push the initiative and tilt the scales. Pure capitalism isn't going to turn down money now to help the planet later. We have over a century of recent history to show our greed at the expense of the environment

https://apnews.com/article/israel-aljazeera-hamas-gaza-war-eba9416aea82f505ab908ee60d1de5e4 Nothing says "free press" like kicking press you don't like out of the country...

Try a mirror

Left wing elitist brainstorming, duh

Oh boy, a compilation of the dumbest answers they got from the public. Surely no videos like this exist at, idk, Trump rallies ... Also ... "Demonrat"...lol

Oh right right, I forgot it's core to the conservative experience to only think about things that directly impacted you.

A lot of similar, huh?

I don't want any free stuff. I'm doing pretty well.

These are the rantings of a dementia riddled brain at the end of the line, just random neurons firing hoping for the best... But I legitimately laughed out loud reading "cowardly, slutty people" lol Part of me still thinks you're a character someone is playing

Sure this sir. We're all rooting for you. Just remember to be off the computer for lights out.