WalterWhite Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 what an odd season. Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 39s 40 seconds ago Another shocking retirement. Chris Borland says he's retiring from the NFL after just one season. Played great for Niners last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Borland went with his gut and is looking after his health. That said, the 49ers are having an off season that could end with locusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 he earned enough seed money to pursue his true passion and start up his own pizza shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 somethings going one. Something is being let known to the players that isn't being told to the general public. This kid was a warrior. Anybody that watched those games against the Seahawks where he met Lynch in the hole knows what i'm talking about. I wanted the Browns to draft this kid but I guess now i'm glad they didn't. I could understand if he came to the conclusion he just couldn't cut it in the league, but that clearly wasn't the case. Plus he was set up in a system with pedigree, he would have been playing/learning with some of the best LB'ers in the league. Same with Worilds. Maybe they discovered some genetic marker that makes some guys more susceptible to problems later in life and those guys are being let known, so they're opting out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5150k9 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 49'r Fans out here are in total shock and wondering what the hell is going on. But at least the owner got them to build a new stadium for him. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 What an offseason for the 49ers.... (thanks for the coach though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The game is going to change dramatically over the next few years and I fear for the worse That said we don't have to play and deal with the risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 and walter screamed when we didn't draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 And he can become a FA when?? or 49'er have rights till??, if he chooses?? Rookie contract, assume he owes no change back to 49'ers and his agent is screwed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 i liked borland as a player but if were him i'd be more worried about his shrinking testicles from being on the juice since HS than concussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 He said he has had two concussions in his life and doesn't want to risk permanent brain injury and decided to retire. Sounds kind of fishy too me. His last concussion was in High School. So he played 4 years at an obviously high tempo in College to get selected by the 49ers and then plays one year. Strange. But, its his choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 What an offseason for the 49ers.... (thanks for the coach though) Michigan, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utzie Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 He said he has had two concussions in his life and doesn't want to risk permanent brain injury and decided to retire. Sounds kind of fishy too me. His last concussion was in High School. So he played 4 years at an obviously high tempo in College to get selected by the 49ers and then plays one year. Strange. But, its his choice. Yes, his last diagnosed concussion was in HS. I'm sure it happens less now that with the new concussion protocols, but players get their bell rung all the time and don't report it to trainers or coaches whether that happened in practice or in games. I can't fault him for wanting to live a healthy life past the age of like 35. Honestly, expect USA soccer to start dominating in 10-15 years when kids start playing that instead of football in the Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The easiest way to stop the concussions. Quit putting the guys in armor. Remove that perceived invincibility and you will have less leading with the head, and head injuries. Go old school. Im not talking leather helmets, but seriously, if we removed some of the armor, guys would be less likely to run around with reckless abandon and get themselves or others hurt. Reduce the roster size would also help. Then again, I could be off my rocker. Just my $.02 Flame away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yes, his last diagnosed concussion was in HS. I'm sure it happens less now that with the new concussion protocols, but players get their bell rung all the time and don't report it to trainers or coaches whether that happened in practice or in games. I can't fault him for wanting to live a healthy life past the age of like 35. Honestly, expect USA soccer to start dominating in 10-15 years when kids start playing that instead of football in the Fall. You realize how many concussions happen in soccer right? http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/cost-header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The easiest way to stop the concussions. Quit putting the guys in armor. Remove that perceived invincibility and you will have less leading with the head, and head injuries. Go old school. Im not talking leather helmets, but seriously, if we removed some of the armor, guys would be less likely to run around with reckless abandon and get themselves or others hurt. It's really not that crazy of an idea-people in rugby get hurt a lot but because they don't wear helmets it's just natural to not lead with the head. I think what I'm more surprised at is that there isn't more solid technology on a "concussion-proof" helmet. I mean, I know there are some out there like Wes Welker has worn but there's nothing league-wide. I think that's the next step that some company is going to make billions on when they are required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I think what I'm more surprised at is that there isn't more solid technology on a "concussion-proof" helmet. I mean, I know there are some out there like Wes Welker has worn but there's nothing league-wide. No such thing exists... same as the "light cigarette". There are helmets that flex to absorb a fraction of the impact energy, but there is none that can appreciably change the deceleration of the skull to prevent the brain from impact it. As said above, tackling has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utzie Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 You realize how many concussions happen in soccer right? http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/cost-header I stand corrected. I grew up in an area where soccer was essentially non-existent, so I guess I always assumed that a majority of the injuries were lower body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 No such thing exists... same as the "light cigarette". There are helmets that flex to absorb a fraction of the impact energy, but there is none that can appreciably change the deceleration of the skull to prevent the brain from impact it. As said above, tackling has to change. Well, I'd make the argument that vaping is a "light cigarette". I mean we definitely agree, I'm just saying having no knowledge of how it works that someone will probably make a helmet that drastically lowers concussion rates. How or what time frame I don't know, but it seems possible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Really.... I don't feel bad for these guys. They get paid millions to do what they do. I just read an article that said NFL players are 3 times as likely to die of diseases of the brain than the average population. Really? For 100x more money than then the average salary. Sign me up. If I live 60 years like a pro athlete does, retire at 35 then doing and going where ever you want and if invest correctly can provide for my whole family for generations, versus living 75 years working till I'm 65, and probably dying from the same disease or something worse than these guys do. Sign me up. I watched as 57 year old co worker that had been at the steel yard I worked at since he was 18 doing one of the worst jobs on earth pulling in 35k a year, get crushed/cut in half by rail car that came unhooked and blindsided him. I'm sure he would have taken the high life and died of head trauma if given the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 lol... other than "vaping" is not smoking, sure... As for the helmet... It's physics. And the science simply says it's not possible. Think of it this way... people (the brain) in a car's passenger cabin (the skull) surrounded by the rest of the car (the helmet). So long as nothing penetrates the cabin, the way passengers are hurt is by their impacting the cabin (dashboard, seat back, steering wheel) when it decelerates fasters than the people do. Whatever you do outside the cabin (energy absorbing bumpers, crumple zones, etc.) all are negligible in preventing people from flying forward in the cabin upon impact UNLESS they are anchored to the cabin by using seat belts. Even the advent of in cabin devices like air bags offer little protection unless seat belts are also used. So far there are no seat belts for the brain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 No such thing exists... same as the "light cigarette". There are helmets that flex to absorb a fraction of the impact energy, but there is none that can appreciably change the deceleration of the skull to prevent the brain from impact it. As said above, tackling has to change. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 lol... other than "vaping" is not smoking, sure... As for the helmet... It's physics. And the science simply says it's not possible. Think of it this way... people (the brain) in a car's passenger cabin (the skull) surrounded by the rest of the car (the helmet). So long as nothing penetrates the cabin, the way passengers are hurt is by their impacting the cabin (dashboard, seat back, steering wheel) when it decelerates fasters than the people do. Whatever you do outside the cabin (energy absorbing bumpers, crumple zones, etc.) all are negligible in preventing people from flying forward in the cabin upon impact UNLESS they are anchored to the cabin by using seat belts. Even the advent of in cabin devices like air bags offer little protection unless seat belts are also used. So far there are no seat belts for the brain... I think most people who smoke would tell you differently but I don't do it so I don't know. I hear ya, I understand that at the end of the day nothing is going to make the game concussion free. Without looking at the concussion rate in the NFL though, it just has always seemed to me that the technology of a helmet could be created to bring that number down a good amount. Even if it was something that say took it from 60% to 35% (not real numbers) it would still make the game way safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns_Fucking_Rule Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 i agree with hx. Football isn't supposed to be safe or injury free... the same way MMA isn't supposed to be safe or injury free. These guys are supposed to risk it all, that is why they get paid so much. Everything they do to make this game more safe ends up taking away from the game and devalues the greatest players of the past. Nobody ever forces these kids to play the game and if they really turn it into a soft game then they need to start paying these guys a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 well, good for Chris Borland.......looks like he has a real good head on his shoulders......and plans to keep it that way!.... And the 49er's???...never have I seen a team melt down so quickly...and folks think the Browns have all the problems....ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I stand corrected. I grew up in an area where soccer was essentially non-existent, so I guess I always assumed that a majority of the injuries were lower body. I am pretty shocked by this concussion in soccer article too, it's an injury I have rarely heard of happening in the sport. And I watch soccer 4-5 times a week all throughout europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 well, good for Chris Borland.......looks like he has a real good head on his shoulders......and plans to keep it that way!.... And the 49er's???...never have I seen a team melt down so quickly...and folks think the Browns have all the problems....ha! We have the Niners at home this year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 i agree with hx. Football isn't supposed to be safe or injury free... the same way MMA isn't supposed to be safe or injury free. These guys are supposed to risk it all, that is why they get paid so much. Everything they do to make this game more safe ends up taking away from the game and devalues the greatest players of the past. Nobody ever forces these kids to play the game and if they really turn it into a soft game then they need to start paying these guys a lot less. I like this viewpoint!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Borland went with his gut and is looking after his health. That said, the 49ers are having an off season that could end with locusts. No dount a team in disfunction. They can't even get players on board a year to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I am actually tired about hearing about Chris Borland. Stick a fork in him....and this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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