Opal312 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 If this is true I'm glad Kelly turned them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Kelly must have been serious that he is not trading the farm to get Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5150k9 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't give a rats A$$ what that blow hard says. He had his mock draft last week on NFL Network stating we will trade both 1st round picks and another pick to move up to 6th and take Marriota. Im so glad he's wrong a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't give a rats A$$ what that blow hard says. He had his mock draft last week on NFL Network stating we will trade both 1st round picks and another pick to move up to 6th and take Marriota. Im so glad he's wrong a lot. saw the same thing on nfl network. the guy has lost his freaking mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 saw the same thing on nfl network. the guy has lost his freaking mind. Well, he IS 110 years old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 So, when the Browns actually do trade up for Mariota, will you all quit posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5150k9 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 So, when the Browns actually do trade up for Mariota, will you all quit posting? And when we don't.... Will you? I will make that wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 if i were the redskins i'd throw out so much pro mariota buzz just to hold the jets and other teams like the browns hostage with that pick. i like mariota but i'm not wasting our 12 and 19 to swap with the jets. too much need on our lines. if they do want to go QB again this year i think it'd be smart to make a move to grab a second rounder like a hundley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I take Pettine at his word. He is a D first kind of coach so I can't see us throwing away the bank again to trade up for yet another "maybe" QB. And they are all "maybe" this year with question marks on all. Plus none of us really knows where they stand on JM (though there are plenty of guesses). Do they think he has the talent to lead this team if successful in rehab? I don't know. They keep that all pretty close to the vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I doubt we are planning to use those firsts to trade up.....if we were, you'd think we would have been a LOT more aggressive in FA and signed some players to fill those needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Two firsts for a qb in a meager qb draft? Not happenin. Bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 And when we don't.... Will you? I will make that wager. No, because I'm not the one bitchinng and complaining about it every chance I get. There's multiple scenarios I'm happy with. I'm not a player fan, I'm a Browns fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 No, because I'm not the one bitchinng and complaining about it every chance I get. There's multiple scenarios I'm happy with. I'm not a player fan, I'm a Browns fan. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Two firsts for a qb in a meager qb draft? Not happenin. Bank on it. I have a hard time NOT wanting the Browns to trade up, if they can, to get Mariota. As a prospect, where would you rank him on this list (not what they have done/not done in the NFL)? Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel Teddy Twatwater Derek Carr EJ Manuel Geno Smith Mike Glennon Andrew Luck Robert Griffin Ryan Tannehill Brandon Weeden Russell Wilson Nick Foles Cam Newton Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder Andy Dalton Colin Kaepernick Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen Jameis Winston Bryce Petty Brett Hundley These are the 25 top QB prospects to come out in the last 6 years. If you put them in order from top prospect to bottom, where would Mariota fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have a hard time NOT wanting the Browns to trade up, if they can, to get Mariota. As a prospect, where would you rank him on this list (not what they have done/not done in the NFL)? As a prospect I believe the highlighted ones were considered better: Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel Teddy Twatwater Derek Carr EJ Manuel Geno Smith Mike Glennon Andrew Luck Robert Griffin Ryan Tannehill Brandon Weeden Russell Wilson Nick Foles Cam Newton Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder Andy Dalton Colin Kaepernick Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen Jameis Winston Bryce Petty Brett Hundley These are the 25 top QB prospects to come out in the last 6 years. If you put them in order from top prospect to bottom, where would Mariota fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 So, when the Browns actually do trade up for Mariota, will you all quit posting? not only is there a chance I quit posting, there's a very real chance I'd be over being a Browns fan. There's just only so much one can take. I've been so die hard my entire life, no other team in any other sport has had this kind of loyalty from me. Not the cavs or the Indians, not any other sports entity. They keep shitting the bed though eventually enough is enough. So unless I learn something new, trading our draft for mariota would indicate someone is just taking a flying gamble again and that's just too much for me. It would be a clean indicator this organization has "zero" ability nor any real intention of building a real football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have a hard time NOT wanting the Browns to trade up, if they can, to get Mariota. Ditto... IF the FO is convinced MM has a strong chance of making it, then the price is not too steep. Personally I am not there. I would target Petty for reasons I have stated elsewhere, but I could accept trading up for MM. Hey.... at least it would not be a trade up to #22... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have to question anyone that wants us to trade it all away for Mariota, cause it's not gonna just our 1st round picks...those teams in the top 5 that have as serious issues as QB as we have...they're gonna make anyone come out of their pockets for those picks. It will take a multi year RG like trade to land Winston or Mariota. Can't happen. If you're a fan of the Cleveland fucking Browns there's no way you want this to happen. If you're a fan of individual players, ie jersey collectors....than you probably want a cool Mariota jersey to wear to the games next year. Not for me. Im gonna get a Kruger jersey this coming year likely cause he's earned the "privilege" to have his number worn by the great one (me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 OK... who said "trade it all away"? Raise your hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The one thing that I draw comfort from, with the whole Mariota thing, is the fact that O'Connell has been coaching him.... therefore, the Browns should have a much clearer idea of what he can or can't do(than most teams).....and Im gonna guess that the Browns will rely heavily on O'Connells opinion... So...whatever we opt to do (trade up....pick him at 12.....or pass), lets assume there's some up close and personal information guiding that decision..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieCamacho84 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 not only is there a chance I quit posting, there's a very real chance I'd be over being a Browns fan. The Browns could intentionally spark World War III, cause the deaths of 300,000,000 people, shoot my mother and rape my dog, and I would still be a fan. You're just a Steelers convert waiting to happen. Get the fuck out, bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The Browns could intentionally spark World War III, cause the deaths of 300,000,000 people, shoot my mother and rape my dog, and I would still be a fan. You're just a Steelers convert waiting to happen. Get the fuck out, bitch. It's funny that the only person that has "Cleveland fan" and "4 life" in their name is the one that's being a big ass whiny bitch. More like Clevfanuntilimaketheswitchtopittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have a hard time NOT wanting the Browns to trade up, if they can, to get Mariota. As a prospect, where would you rank him on this list (not what they have done/not done in the NFL)? As a prospect I believe the highlighted ones were considered better: Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel Teddy Twatwater Derek Carr EJ Manuel Geno Smith Mike Glennon Andrew Luck Robert Griffin Ryan Tannehill Brandon Weeden Russell Wilson Nick Foles Cam Newton Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder Andy Dalton Colin Kaepernick Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen Jameis Winston Bryce Petty Brett Hundley These are the 25 top QB prospects to come out in the last 6 years. If you put them in order from top prospect to bottom, where would Mariota fall? I would agree with all of those, except Bortles because I think Mariota would've been drafted ahead of him if he would have come out last year. I would also put him at a close tie with Griffin and Bradford. That being said, getting the 4th to 6th best prospect in the last 6 years would be pretty awesome. According to the draft value chart, our 12th and 19th are worth 2075 points. The 5th and 6th picks are worth 1700 and 1600 respectively, so I'm not sure we would have to give up much else to move up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would agree with all of those, except Bortles because I think Mariota would've been drafted ahead of him if he would have come out last year. I would also put him at a close tie with Griffin and Bradford. That being said, getting the 4th to 6th best prospect in the last 6 years would be pretty awesome. According to the draft value chart, our 12th and 19th are worth 2075 points. The 5th and 6th picks are worth 1700 and 1600 respectively, so I'm not sure we would have to give up much else to move up for him. I think Bortles may have been rated ahead of Mariota, slightly, but it would have been close. I think most scouts see Bortles as a more protypical Pro pocket passer than Mariota, which may have given him an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Casserly's mock draft should make every Brown's fan mad. Other mock drafts have the Jets at #6 taking Mariota. My mock draft takes Kevin White if still available and Danny Shelton or Eddie Goldman. I don't think they would mortgage the franchise like the Redskins. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins took Mariota and traded RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5150k9 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 My point earlier was, unless you have a LUCK or MANNING talent coming out, there is no need to mortgage the franchise for several years of draft picks for a QB that they says "Has" potential. I don't have anything against Mariotta personally, if he's there at 19 why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins took Mariota and traded RG3. exactly what i'd do if i were them. especially since kelly and the eagles are in your division. keep him out of his hands or have him sell you his soul for the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 My point earlier was, unless you have a LUCK or MANNING talent coming out, there is no need to mortgage the franchise for several years of draft picks for a QB that they says "Has" potential. I don't have anything against Mariotta personally, if he's there at 19 why not. AKA... the sure thing... Problem is, as has been pointed out repeatedly, picks for sure thing QBs are not traded away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5150k9 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 AKA... the sure thing... Problem is, as has been pointed out repeatedly, picks for sure thing QBs are not traded away... Absolutely. just not seeing the "Sure thing" in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 AKA... the sure thing... Problem is, as has been pointed out repeatedly, picks for sure thing QBs are not traded away... There has only ever been one "sure thing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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