LogicIsForSquares Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 The guy had a good pro day and played in a pro style offense. He has an NFL arm. Anyone else think it comes down to Petty or Mannion if the Browns pick a QB outside of the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 The guy had a good pro day and played in a pro style offense. He has an NFL arm. Anyone else think it comes down to Petty or Mannion if the Browns pick a QB outside of the first? I'm still about that Garrett Grayson. Sadly, I think I'm the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 If Bradford not already a done deal. It's Petty, Mannion or Greyson. Out of the 3, Mannion to me on tape looks to be more ready for NFL due to Pro Offense and over 500 snaps from under center. His accuracy and arm strength looks ready for NFL Speed over Hundley and Petty already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 greyson is in the top 4 of QBs by many talking heads. hundley looked good to me on gruden's QB camp. haven't seen enough of the others to comment on but after winston i think even mariota falls into the same level as the others. my hope is we keep the 12 and 19, do what we need to do there and then in the second or early third make a move on one of these other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I'm still about that Garrett Grayson. Sadly, I think I'm the only one. I like Grayson as a prospect. I'll just always shy toward more athletic guys, sadly. Grayson's athletic ability reminds me of Peyton Manning currently...not in a good way. I think it just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I dont like Greyson's throwing motion. He winds up too much which could cause big problems against NFL talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I had Grayson in my stupid mock draft. I've been interested in Mannion. He has Bernie Kosar feet maybe, but it seemed he's a good bit more mobile. Relatively speaking, of course. But he has an NFL arm and can really make all the throws. Does Peyton Manning run much? Nope. Mannion won't either. As Canton Mike told me, Mannion had a terrible day against SoCal. But with a solid oline....... and he falls to the 4th round... just depends on the offense. Needs coached up on the fundamentals, but so does Mariotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJmac28 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Since we are all favoring different QB's I will throw my support toward Petty. I thought he looked like the third best QB at the Combine. I believe Mannion's game speed and delivery are to slow for the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Mannion has terrible footwork. He's most accurate throwing off his back foot which is not a good sign. When he steps onto his throws, he becomes even less accurate. I don't think he'll even be a viable backup in the NFL without major coaching and development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Since we are all favoring different QB's I will throw my support toward Petty. I thought he looked like the third best QB at the Combine. Petty has potential but his delivery is somewhat sidearm which lowers his accuracy, particularly with the deep ball. He can get the ball out quick and can move in the pocket. He might be worth a 3rd round pick and be given a chance to compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Brett Hundley looks the part of an NFL QB, and has shown he has what it takes; however, the guy has NO pocket presence. When he is pressured, he seems to freeze and take sacks. When he is protected, he is a deadly QB but when the blitz disrupts the pocket, he looks like a deer in headlights. I'd consider drafting him in the 2nd round, focusing on his high ceiling but early 2nd might be too high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 This year has been pretty easy to evaluate QBs, if you ask me. I rank the draftable guys as: 1. Winston - 1st round 2. Mariota - 1st round 3. Hundley - 2nd round 4. Petty - 3rd or 4th round 5. Grayson - 4th or 5th round I don't think I'd mess with any other QBs in this draft, unless I was bringing them in as a UDFA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Brett Hundley looks the part of an NFL QB, and has shown he has what it takes; however, the guy has NO pocket presence. When he is pressured, he seems to freeze and take sacks. When he is protected, he is a deadly QB but when the blitz disrupts the pocket, he looks like a deer in headlights. I'd consider drafting him in the 2nd round, focusing on his high ceiling but early 2nd might be too high... he was pressured a lot last year as the UCLA offensive line was dogshit, but he escaped a fair bit from what I've seen. There were several plays where he froze because the pocket completely fell apart as multiple defenders were getting pressure. What I like is that he still completed over 70% of his passes and clearly has the build you look for in an NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Mannion has terrible footwork. He's most accurate throwing off his back foot which is not a good sign. When he steps onto his throws, he becomes even less accurate. I don't think he'll even be a viable backup in the NFL without major coaching and development... He's one of my favorites for a UDFA pick up.....yes, he needs coaching.....but has all the tools to be good. And, with the NFL being so enamored with running type QB's now, he is one of the few prospects that actually looks like a true life prototype pocket passer.... So, not as good as the others....and definitely not one to take early.....but 6th-7th round?...UDFA?.....I say...YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I love Petty's potential. I know it's only workouts where we see him dropping back and throwing, but to my eye when he plants hard after a drop, his entire throwing motion improves. He snaps the ball out over-the-top better than any other prospect in this draft. And as I have written before, even the mini-drops he took after read option fakes from the pistol showed the same tightening in his game tape. Add that I saw taped evidence of him making reads and his love of the game is clear. I love him as a Day 2 guy. By contrast Mannion looks absolutely awful in workouts. "Gangly" is the best word I can come up with... arms and legs all over the place... but his game tape is much tighter. As mentioned above, however, he has a long, slow delivery that will be problematic. I keep trying to get interested enough in Greyson to spend some time on him, but can't... Not a Hundley fan... just feel like we've seen his upside already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Workout's Gangly, but when the lights come on, he stands strong and deliver's. Go figure, I can't figure it out either, but I like a project at 6 or 7, than 2,3,4 or 5th Round. I am so done with QB's in this league after Luck, Even Brady was luck. Our Turn Please.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Speaking of gangly late round QB's.........Connor Halliday is another one.....think Derrick Anderson......except smarter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Speaking of gangly late round QB's.........Connor Halliday is another one.....think Derrick Anderson......except smarter..... You don't want Mannion or Halliday, trust me. And no, neither of them compare to Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 You don't want Mannion or Halliday, trust me. And no, neither of them compare to Anderson. Because neither of them are gangly mouth breathing idiots who suck at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Tiny hands in Cle weather....PASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I am gong to start charging for use of the word "gangly"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 We've had enough experience with ridiculous OSU players. Yes, both OSU's.. Robiskie was a terrible 2nd round selection. Leave Mannion alone.. just get Stefon Diggs instead, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 greyson is in the top 4 of QBs by many talking heads. hundley looked good to me on gruden's QB camp. haven't seen enough of the others to comment on but after winston i think even mariota falls into the same level as the others. my hope is we keep the 12 and 19, do what we need to do there and then in the second or early third make a move on one of these other guys. ^^^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Would be concerned with Hundley and Petty's arm strength after the combine. Going back over the years here not many have success with their velocity.... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-SienfT3umX0HKxRyQqyXM9BqHrotdcQA6W-V_pDiY/edit?pli=1#gid=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I am gong to start charging for use of the word "gangly"... Then I propose the frugal start using "rangy" as a cost saving measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Garrett Grayson has the coolest name. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Garrett Grayson has the coolest name. WSS I was thinking that he had Tarzan's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 John Clayton Earl of Greystone. You coming out today? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 John Clayton Earl of Greystone. You coming out today? WSS Yes....see you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns_Fucking_Rule Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Forget combine and pro day work outs and just focus on game tape... Mannion appears to be a great value for where he will be slotted in this draft. I also like Halliday a lot too... I believe both these guys have the tools to be starters in this league. I think we should look closely at both of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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