calfoxwc Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yep. mmgw is on the rocks. No more "all scientists" bs nothin. Alas, poor Sheppie, I knew ye well - being wrong about mmgw....that is" http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/31/the-ipccs-latest-report-deliberately-excludes-and-misrepresents-important-climate-science/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Cal did you read up anything about the NIPCC? The report was done by oil company goons and the other members involved who have positions at universities have no background in climate science. One of the guys works for K-State and is an expert on mites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I am not one of the "oh god doomsday" types. I just critically think about what I read. I work with people involved directly with making money from natural resource mining and they agree that MMGW exists. They just think there is no chance of people just up and stopping themselves from using fossil fuels. So they will continue to make money from the process. They are just realists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 as long as an OpEd says something Cal agrees with, it is fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No, all the UN reports are done by pro-mmgw orgs, then, too. You think they will fund a report that says differently than what they want them to? Actually, one did...and they edited out the science that contradicted their desire to benefit from mmgw with $$$$$$$$$$$$ The point is, that woody always misses... is that there is evidence to the contrary, and that means that mmgw is not FACT. Facts are indisputable, so mmgw goes over the cliff into a pile of stuff that is conjecture at best, with cherry picked science, and bogus studies to support it, because of political expediency. Ah, the good old days when Sheppie lambasted me with the old tree ring proof. That was bogus, too. And, I do not support political action and votes based on ...a disputed theory. That's all. That includes the UN's freaking TAXES to help poor developing countries, and to help investors like Gore and the like, to make billions and billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Cal are all of the university reports on it just cherry picked science? I can see the UN being full of shit. Seems like a pretty big conspiracy for 99% of the scientific community to be in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Scientists are liberals. Therefore they are bad. If you want to go barking up this tree Logic go ahead, you have my support. It is just a lost cause to try to debate this with cal (not that other things aren't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Scientists are liberals. Therefore they are bad. If you want to go barking up this tree Logic go ahead, you have my support. It is just a lost cause to try to debate this with cal (not that other things aren't). I've found my energy is better spent elsewhere. This political board is really all about the e-peen so I've come to the conclusion I'd rather talk football than politics on the Browns Board. Less time spent banging ny head against the wall leads to fewer headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I've found my energy is better spent elsewhere. This political board is really all about the e-peen so I've come to the conclusion I'd rather talk football than politics on the Browns Board. Less time spent banging ny head against the wall leads to fewer headaches. A man's got to know his limitations. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Sometimes ya gotta know when to hold em, and know when to fold em, eh? I'd leave, too, if I was a non-conservative and woody started worshipping all my posts. That's in lieu of woody having anything of genuine input to the board by himself. You know, like history. Or politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 You're like arguing with a donkey (And not even a magic donkey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I like arguing with the ignorant butt of this board, that's you. Grow up and learn some freakin history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Is this gonna be your new catch phrase now? The history bit? Just like at one point the "emotion" bit was in every post. Was someone on The Blaze talking about "liberals don't know history" or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Wow, you would try to get the last word... oh shit now i did! Quick Cal, post something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I am king of the outhouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 All hail king Cysko wait.... fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here. Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here. Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change. WSS Inspector Harry Callahan The Enforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'm starting to tire of the 'clever' youtube responses to everything. I'm going to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here. Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change. WSS Damn it I didn't want to be forced to post in this thread but now you lured me back in. I'm afraid though I am a fan of Clint's work, that's one of his movies I didn't see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewy Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 The human contribution to Co2 levels is .9 of 1%...a fart in a hurricane. Pathetic how so many ignorant libtards support John Kerry, Obama, Al Gore and other alarmists propagating a god damned fart in a hurricane.... oblivious to the fact it is to advance a socialist world governance. Obamas goal is to redistribute wealth throughout the world, and a climate change scare is the perfect way by which to accomplish this. It is not we that are the "deniers" . We on the right know that global warming and cooling occurs, always has, always will, with or without mankind...rather it is you leftists that are the deniers. You either refuse to acknowledge the evidence of Obamas agenda that has been laid out in front of you...or you're simply too stupid to put 2+2 together. “Man Made Global warming is phony science that was concocted to justify implementation of an international political agenda. The idea of using ‘man-caused global warming’ as a ‘surrogate for war’ and as a way to ‘destroy excess wealth’ originated in American and UN-related think tanks such as the Club of Rome back in the 60′s and 70′s. This pseudo-science is the centerpiece of a phony environmental movement by which the UN hopes to redistribute wealth in the world (toward the super-rich and away from the people) to de-industrialize the industrialized countries (via the UN Kyoto Protocol-type carbon taxes, cap and trade schemes, etc.), and radically reduce the human population.” “The IPCC is essentially operating with pre-determined conclusions, namely that human activity and carbon emissions cause ‘global warming’ and other environmental and climate problems, even though there is little objective scientific evidence to demonstrate ‘global warming’ is in fact a real phenomenon,” Dr. Karlstrom says. Climate scientists working with the IPCC and other international bodies have been known to not only spin scientific data to fit their pre-determined conclusions, but also to outright fabricate “evidence” to support their idea of “man-made climate change.” Who would benefit from this catastrophically expensive agenda? Only the political and politically connected elite—the Goldman Sachs outfits that would reap billions from trading carbon permits; the Al Gores and corporate and political insiders that would amass fortunes from their ties to a government-rigged energy market and investments in politically correct technologies. And think of the power that governments would have if they controlled energy consumption. By controlling energy, you control people. No wonder governments have spent tens of billions of dollars promoting this scenario and supporting political panels like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to disseminate the desired “findings.” Even in wealthier countries, people who are affluent enough to afford the monetary costs could find their lives heavily regimented by government bureaucrats monitoring and limiting how many miles they may travel and what activities they may undertake. http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/09/16/climate-change-hoax-or-crime-of-the-century/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 So again, did 99% of the science community go to a secret meeting where they all decided that they would come to the same conclusions? Because that sounds as crazy as all the 9/11 "truthers" who think that top down the government all planned it and no one slipped up and told the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 It never was 99%. It was politically motivated - because many scientists had no voice in the decision to support it. They were just included, and many wanted their names removed from the support list. We've been over this before. There are thousands of climate scientists whose names are added to the pro-bogus mmgw list, who never had a thing to do with the list, and want nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 More and more mmgw people are jumping the bogus ship of mmgw. Yes, it was a UN political ploy all along. For control over, and making money from, those countries with money. ************************************* Green Guru James Lovelock on Climate Change: ‘I don’t think anybody really knows what’s happening. They just guess’ – Lovelock Reverses Himself on Global Warming Lovelock, on BBC TV, slams the global warming claims including those of of the United Nations climate panel. 'They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each other’s guesses.' Lovelock was once one of the leading voices of climate alarm. See: 2006 Climate Shocker: Lovelock Predicted Global Warming Doom: 'Billions of us will die; few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in Arctic' Fast Forward to April 2012: ‘Gaia’ scientist James Lovelock reverses himself: I was ‘alarmist’ about climate change & so was Gore! ‘The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago’ Lovelock becomes UN IPCC's biggest critic: Green Guru Lovelock Slams UN IPCC & Greens: ‘Whenever UN puts its finger in it seems to become a mess’ — ‘The green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion’ -- James Lovelock: ''IPCC is too politicized & too internalized' -- On Green religion: 'I don't think people have noticed that, but it's got all the sort of terms that religions use. The greens use guilt. You can't win people round by saying they are guilty for putting CO2 in the air' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say. In fact, scientists are trained to be skeptical of each other and any theory that does NOT have significant evidence. You will never convince Cal of this, though, so you'd be better off trying to convince someone a bit more open-minded about the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific ... Peer review|Scientists...|Scientists...|Scientists... ... greenhouse gases, man- made sulfate emissions, solar variability ... James Lawrence (2011), The Inquisition of Climate Science, Columbia University ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists...of_global_warming - Cached More results from en.wikipedia.org » *************************** tartling Number of Scientific Papers Disputed Human-Caused ... The pie chart above says it all. Despite searching just over a year's worth of the scientific literature on global warming and climate change, one man's ... www.weather.com/news/science/environment/startling... - Cached More results from weather.com » **************************** Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical ... It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a ... www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer... - Cached More results from forbes.com » *************************** NASA Scientists Dispute Climate Change - Business Insider ... that man-made carbon dioxide is having a ... With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists ... www.businessinsider.com/nasa-scientists-dispute-climate... - Cached **************************** SPECIAL REPORT: More Than 1000 International Scientists ... ... More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global ... more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-manmade-global-warming-claims ... www.climatedepot.com/2011/05/31/special-report-more-than... - Cached *************************** Startling Number of Scientific Papers Disputed Human-Caused ... The pie chart above says it all. Despite searching just over a year's worth of the scientific literature on global warming and climate change, one man's ... www.weather.com/news/science/environment/startling... - Cached More results from weather.com » ***************************** http://www.petitionproject.org/ ***************************** 17,200 Scientists Dispute Global Warming - Digital Journal Is there a scientific consensus on the topic of man made global warming? If you read the news in the major media you would have cause to believe that there is. The ... www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241 - Cached *********************************** .: U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works ... ... Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007 . Senate Report Debunks "Consensus" Complete U.S. Senate Report Now Available: ... www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority... - Cached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Good luck guys. Oh man, he did the Google search thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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