Westside Steve Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oklahoma-judge-dismisses-ten-commandments-lawsuit-25623948 ABC so it's harder to bellyache about the source. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 The Ten Commandments are secular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LogicIsForSquares Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I expect to see about 30 monuments built by people who make up a religion on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Let em have it, its just a monument. The sad part is this is in a court wasting taxpayer money. If you don't like it, don't read it. I would say to all the athiests out there; don't waste your time on keeping religion in the shadows, but rather spend your time protecting your right to believe what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 lol, there are some satanists that are planning on putting this on the lawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I hope it plays Slayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The Cub Scout salute? ??? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The Cub Scout salute? ??? WSS Yeah either Satan is a scout or the scouts have some explaining to do haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The Cub Scout salute? ??? WSS You didn't know that Beelzebub was an Eagle Scout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I hope it plays Slayer. Slayer or it fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 How are the 10 Commandments secular? I realize some of our law was based on the 10 Commandments (as well as a lot of other old documents) but I am not sure how you could call it "secular" It is Oklahoma though... what are ya gonna do? Well, I hope every other group just fills the lawn with random shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 "The Ten Commandments monument on the Oklahoma Capitol grounds is constitutional because of its historical value," I'm sorry, 'historical' value? Implying that they definitively happened? I don't care about the statue, but the judge's reasoning is pretty iffy, along with the aforementioned supposed secularity of the monument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I expect to see about 30 monuments built by people who make up a religion on the fly. "The Ten Commandments monument on the Oklahoma Capitol grounds is constitutional because of its historical value," I'm sorry, 'historical' value? Implying that they definitively happened? I don't care about the statue, but the judge's reasoning is pretty iffy, along with the aforementioned supposed secularity of the monument. They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Bacchus WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings. Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations. Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I hope it plays Slayer. If not, then 'Shout at the Devil" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree? You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make idols. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Honor your father and your mother. You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You shall not covet. There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society. The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society. 5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected. 7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal. Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine. Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree? So today's laws that Chris pointed out are attributed primarily to the 10 commandments? Bold move, cotton. I'll let you justify that rather than trying to argue against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make idols. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Honor your father and your mother. You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You shall not covet. There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society. The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society. 5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected. 7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal. Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine. Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch. No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it. Yeah, the UCMJ is a different sort of animal. Good point, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it. It is also still illegal in many US states. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Stop persecuting Christianity you guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Stop persecuting Christianity you guys... Just so ya know litard, Commandment #9 is regarding false accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make idols. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Honor your father and your mother. You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You shall not covet. There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society. The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society. 5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected. 7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal. Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine. Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch. 3 laws perhaps, most of the others are considered princples to which to live by. But did anyone notice that lying is not listed as a no-no in the Top Ten? This is an amusing and informative video about #9 ...the differnce between lying and bearing false witness, or accusations, and how it so relates to todays liberal scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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