MLD Woody Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I honestly don't think you would complain if that exact same sentiment was coming from a liberal. It's not uncommon to believe that the military tends to send people home without the proper support systems, correct? And I know you don't remember the Bush administration but that was a common complaint. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I thought it was Dubbya's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I thought it was Dubbya's fault Well it was 10 years ago. Veterans Support is a common political cudgel regardless of the party in power. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 If she could see that her son has PTSD and clearly has the money to help him get treatment, what makes her think some likely shit option from the VA would have been the solution? This is just grandstanding nonsense. Like Steve said, it has been a gripe for a long time about how vets are treated after they get back. But her son's actions can't be tied back to the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 If Jon Stewart was still running the daily show he'd spend the next week cunt punching her. How dare "any" republican complain about veterans affairs when this problem stretches back to 03-04 and it was a few dems, not all, but a few that were sounding the alarms that there's a big big problem in the near future with these guys. Stewart made it a near weekly segment ridiculing the state of veteran affairs. Whatever some of you think about his politics, he was a really good dude who brought up so much shit that no one else...including the "liberal media", barely paid any attention to. Didn't he just come back to the daily show a few weeks ago to run a segment on 9/11 first responders still getting shit on by our govt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 This was serious? I mean, I saw things like "my son attacked his girlfriend...Thanks Obama!" and assumed people were just taking the piss. But apparently not. Also, our 'wounded woyyas'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Regardless of what Stewart has to say who's been in office for the last 7 years? The empty fucking suit is taking credit for everything that wasn't a complete disaster so far, why not fix this shit? Oops sorry I forgot. He's a figurehead that can read a teleprompter and has little or no effect on anything. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Why can't any of you just say "that was fucked up of her to make her sons problem political". Who cares who's in office, that's not the point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I wonder how the Obama defense would hold up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 It's frankly ridiculous that she'd blame this on Obama. She's worth (according to google) about $12m. If she knew her son had PTSD - and he started and finished active duty in 2008 so it should probably have been apparent - why didn't she help? What could have been done differently under a different president, that she couldn't have done herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I wonder how the Obama defense would hold up in court. Not well without a spine. Hey-oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 David Maulsby, executive director of the nonprofit PTSD Foundation of America, told Yahoo News that he couldn’t address Track Palin’s alleged crime because he doesn’t know the particulars. “Generally speaking, however, it is our experience that PTSD lends to the 22 veteran suicides a day, not homicides or other acts of violence,” Maulsby said in an email. “PTSD in our vets is leading to a feeling of ‘I’m not worthy’ and isolation. While anyone with PTSD can commit an act of violence, we believe it not a result of PTSD, in general.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 how do you get ptsd driving generals around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 how do you get ptsd driving generals around? One time a general farted in the car. You don't know what he has smelled, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 how do you get ptsd driving generals around? oh gtfo, srsly? Did this douchebag get cake duty but now his mommy's using PTSD as a result of "active duty" service as an excuse for why he's a douchebag? Oh my fucking god this family will have reached some brand new depths of depravity if that little 1/2fgt never came within 50 miles of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 and yeah it'll be interesting to see if he goes with the "oval office colored boy" defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Palin marched her special needs kid out to get votes, Karl Rove approves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Max Cleland? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Max Cleland? WSS Ann Coulter is not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 The VA has excellent PTSD treatment, and is specialized in treating combat veterans, much more so then any civilian hospital/Doctor. The following is copied from their website: Symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) can be terrifying. They may disrupt your life and make it hard to continue with your daily activities. It may be hard just to get through the day. PTSD symptoms usually start soon after the traumatic event, but they may not happen until months or years later. They also may come and go over many years. If the symptoms last longer than 4 weeks, cause you great distress, or interfere with your work or home life, you probably have PTSD. Therapy can help decrease your symptoms. Your symptoms do not have to interfere with your everyday activities, work, and relationships. Most people who go through a traumatic event have some symptoms at the beginning but do not develop PTSD. There are four types of symptoms:Reliving the event Bad memories of the traumatic event can come back at any time. You may feel the same fear and horror you did when the event took place. You may feel like you are going through the event again. This is called a flashback. Sometimes there is a trigger: a sound or sight that causes you to relive the event. Triggers might include: Hearing a car backfireThis can bring back memories of gunfire and combat. Seeing a car accidentThis can remind a survivor of his or her own accident. Seeing a news report of a sexual assaultThis may bring back memories of assault for a woman who was raped. Avoiding situations that remind you of the event You may try to avoid situations or people that trigger memories of the traumatic event. You may even avoid talking or thinking about the event. Avoidance behavior may include: Avoiding watching television shows or movies that remind a person of the traumatic eventA combat veteran who avoids watching shows or movies about war. Avoiding places that remind a person of the traumatic eventA person robbed at gunpoint avoids crowded places where they fear being attacked. Avoiding thinking or talking about the eventA person may keep very busy or avoid seeking help to keep from having to think or talk about the event. Feeling numb You may find it hard to express your feelings. This is another way to avoid memories. You may not have positive or loving feelings toward other people and may stay away from relationships You may not be interested in activities you used to enjoy You may forget about parts of the traumatic event or not be able to talk about them Feeling keyed up You may always be alert and on the lookout for danger. This is known as increased emotional arousal. It can cause you to: Suddenly become angry or irritable Have a hard time sleeping Have trouble concentrating Fear for your safety and always feel on guard Startle when someone surprises you Back to Top Other symptomsPeople with PTSD may also have other symptoms including: Physical symptoms for no reason you can think of called somatic complaints Feelings of shame, despair, or hopelessness Difficulty controlling your emotions Impulsive or self-destructive behavior Changed beliefs or changed personality traits Back to Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 DieHard, I'm guessing you know of at least a few people with PTSD - does it make them in your experience more aggressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well it was 10 years ago. Veterans Support is a common political cudgel regardless of the party in power. WSS Veterans support gets a ton of lip service from both sides. Very little real, impactful change has occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 how do you get ptsd driving generals around? Apparently you need to be the offspring of an Idiot Seems to work very well for this family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think he got drunk and punched his ex girlfriend in the face because he's a piece of shit, not because he has PTSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think he got drunk and punched his ex girlfriend in the face because he's a piece of shit, not because he has PTSD. so he has PoSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 so he has PoSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 It's sad that this woman and her family make the Clintons look like people that should be up on rushmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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