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I think the threats, violence against, and fragile security makes them

a differenct case, than our other allies.

 

Iran isn't saying they want to blow England, France, or Germany, Norway

off the map...

 

it's Israel. The so-called Palestinians could have had their own state, too, back

in the day...but they refused because they didn't want to live next to the new planned

Jewish state, the Jews they hated anyways.

 

So, they cut off their nose to spite their face, as the old saying goes, and Israel lives everyday

with terrorism, and threats, and more threatened hideous violence, even against children.

 

I'd say that gives Israel a far more serious, loyal standing with western countries, and makes

Israel's stituation stand out as a very serious, special case requiring far more support in protection.

Not just any ally, ya know?

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Yes Chris, partially because they are Jewish. We have a large, successful and influential Jewish community here in the United States. Americans always seem to root for the underdog as well with Israel being at odds with nearly every other country around the region.

 

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Palestinians sort of have a legitimate beef with Israel in my opinion but that's not my business. We have a lot of problems we could be working on in America before bending over backwards to prop up israel. Sell them weapons to defend themselves? Sure. Help them if they get into a tight spot? Of course. But act as their heavy? Nah. If they want to be a legitimate state they have to defend themselves. They chose the middle east for their nation.

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The analogy, Logic, is nonsense. There is no historical tragedy of gigantic proportions

associated with a neighbor's window breaking.

 

Your neighbor can fix their window. The Jews can't fix the Holocaust. It's so horrible, and devastating in

world history. And it must never happen again. We see the same nazi style widespread crimes against

humanity with the daesch sp? now. The world can't slip into world war again. The first time Iran has a nuke

and sends it to Israel, Israel will respond back. Then the whole rest of the world can be happy that it didn't have

anything to do with them when nuclear winter debris floats around the world, all over everything.

 

When a simple denying Iran nukes in the first place, and supporting Israel bigtime, would have sufficed

to make the world so much a safer place.

 

If you had to pick, which one do you pick?

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Palestinians sort of have a legitimate beef with Israel in my opinion but that's not my business. We have a lot of problems we could be working on in America before bending over backwards to prop up israel. Sell them weapons to defend themselves? Sure. Help them if they get into a tight spot? Of course. But act as their heavy? Nah. If they want to be a legitimate state they have to defend themselves. They chose the middle east for their nation. Cysko

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Baloney. The Palestinians have no legit beef with Israel. Of course Israel has always defended itself. Israel defended

itself during the 7 day war. Didn't want our direct military intervention. They won. But allowing Israel to be declared war on,

and them defending themselves...what do you think happens then? And they didn't choose the ME, they have always lived there,

and their country was created for them by the UN. The Palestinians have only their own stupid, anti-Semitism subculture to blame

for their own pitiful plight.

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Again, we did not cause the Holocaust. Log


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BstinkinS. Nobody is saying that. But the west tragically allowed it to happen.


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Germany should be the one bending over backwards to help out Israel.


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More BS:


http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/germany-foreign-aid-israel


That's just back in 1991.


More recently,


http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2012/1917/



But is take more than just one western country to support Israel to stop aggression towards Israel.


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I would pick letting Israel fight their battles because they have the means to do so.


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Sure. They've never asked for our soldiers to help them fight. But we do not want


them to have to fight a war because of open aggression by hateful countries. Not


supporting them, like Obamao is doing, openly gives aggressor countries a "green light"


to a degree.


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They are an ally. Not some welfare state.


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Grass is green or brown, depending.

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Perhaps, then, those countries donating large amounts of money to Israel to defend itself from the threats of other countries should at the same time be aiming to reduce the threats as well? Like from Iran, for example, reducing their military capacity?

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Perhaps, then, those countries donating large amounts of money to Israel to defend itself from the threats of other countries should at the same time be aiming to reduce the threats as well? Like from Iran, for example, reducing their military capacity?

I would be pleased to see Iran's military capacity disabled if there were a feasible plan. If there were a way to knock out their nuclear facilities I would be all for it.

 

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Why are we so worried about Iran's military capability? Are we afraid of Iran? I think it's obvious that having a strong country over there is better than having lawless chaos. Are we better off with isis raging over there or were we better off with saddam and ghadafi?

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I would be pleased to see Iran's military capacity disabled if there were a feasible plan. If there were a way to knock out their nuclear facilities I would be all for it.

 

WSS

I think it's unlikely - and unfair? - to disable a country's military capacity. Reduce/limit, absolutely, but every country should be able to defend itself.

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I think it's unlikely - and unfair? - to disable a country's military capacity. Reduce/limit, absolutely, but every country should be able to defend itself.

I should have said nuclear capability. But along your reasoning why would it be fair to reduce or limit it at all?

 

WSS

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C - Our support of them is what makes us a target to Islamic militants. And we give them way too much, billions of dollars each year that they use to make life worse for the Palestinians.

 

That said, our support makes that region incredibly unstable, which is important for some of our long-term interests (oil). I would expect, however, that once the Iranians make a nuclear bomb, we're going to stop bending over backwards for Israel.

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Our support of them is what makes us a target to Islamic militants. Vapor

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Your point is what, exactly? We should be anti-Semite, become

Islamic extremists so they will like us?

 

We would be a huge target regardless.

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http://jcpa.org/article/israel-is-not-the-issue-militant-islam-and-america/

 

Nah. Surely Islamic extremist terrorists don't kill other Muslims

because WE support ISRAEL.

 

good...gravy

 

"The early Wahhabi movement, which had formed a political alliance with the Saudi family, attacked Shi’ites as heretics and even sacked the Iraqi Shi’ite holy city of Karbala in 1801, slaughtering its residents. The Taliban, who came out of Islamic seminaries in Pakistan funded by Saudi Arabia and inspired by its Wahhabi doctrine,13 actually continued this violent Wahhabi tradition through their harsh treatment of Afghan Shi’ites. - See more at: http://jcpa.org/article/israel-is-not-the-issue-militant-islam-and-america/#sthash.KDNVjriE.dpuf"

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Our support of them is what makes us a target to Islamic militants. Vapor

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Your point is what, exactly? We should be anti-Semite, become

Islamic extremists so they will like us?

 

We would be a huge target regardless.

Still don't see how someone is an anti-Semite for disagreeing with Israel. That doesn't mean someone hates jews. It means they disagree with a country's policies.

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Still don't see how someone is an anti-Semite for disagreeing with Israel. That doesn't mean someone hates jews. It means they disagree with a country's policies. Log

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Because it isn't true. Nobody is saying that. Anti-semite means HATRED FOR JEWS.

So, we should withdraw all support for Israel so the terrorists will like us?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

 

They'll still hate us. Anything else is just nonsense. And why disagree with their policies?

What is it that you disagree with ? You become one of them, or you die.

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