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Came across this article in the Sporting News. I don't believe there is a "Browns Way" of doing things. Maybe losing the team had a lot to do with it. However, with all the free agents, and mix and match we do, i think our young players miss this type of opportunity, mentorship and a orientation that says, "This is Cleveland, You're a Brown, and this is how it's done."


PITTSBURGH -- Every time Willie Parker sees Steelers rookie running back Rashard Mendenhall, he cannot help but think of Jerome Bettis.
The thought has nothing to do with Mendenhall's running style. It has to do with the way Bettis -- a future Hall of Famer -- embraced and tutored Parker as a rookie, which eventually led to Pittsburgh winning a Super Bowl their second year together in 2005.

"JB always kept it real with me,'' Parker said glowingly. "He told me as long as I passed the blueprint on to somebody else and not be selfish, that's the only way we can have the running back tradition that we've had here. So, yeah, it's my turn."
Parker's mentality has the potential to bring a smile to coach Mike Tomlin's face.
The Steelers' second-year coach says there is "great chemistry" and an "unwritten rule" of mentorship in Pittsburgh. The veterans teach the rookies the Steelers' way of doing things as soon as they get in the door, and the rookies are better off because of it. It's one of the reasons Pittsburgh remains one of the NFL's steadiest and most successful franchises.

Parker is not alone. Veteran receiver Hines Ward expressed the same sentiment about his relationship with Pittsburgh's second-round pick, Limas Sweed. Ward sat out of minicamp following offseason knee surgery but was very hands-on with Sweed throughout the weekend, as he was in the past with Plaxico Burress and current teammate Santonio Holmes.
Ward cited former Steelers such as Courtney Hawkins and Charles Johnson as reasons he was able to produce early in his career.
"Those guys brought me in,'' Ward said. "Unfortunately, they left and I was the leader in Year 3, and it was me just learning on the run. But I remember vividly just coming into the league. In my time it was [looking up to] Kordell [Stewart] and Jerome, now these guys, they see Ben [Roethlisberger] and Troy [Polamalu] and they're in awe.''
Mendenhall, 20, is in awe mostly because he never thought he would become a Steeler.

One of the most memorable things Bettis told Parker in his rookie season was that he should always push the veteran as hard as he could, Parker said. That way, Bettis remained sharp as the starter, and Parker in turn became a better running back. Years later, that same advice is being passed down to Mendenhall.

Memo to Bettis: "Fast Willie" is keeping his promise.
James Walker covers the NFL for ESPN.com
 
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Came across this article in the Sporting News. I don't believe there is a "Browns Way" of doing things. Maybe losing the team had a lot to do with it. However, with all the free agents, and mix and match we do, i think our young players miss this type of opportunity, mentorship and a orientation that says, "This is Cleveland, You're a Brown, and this is how it's done."


PITTSBURGH -- Every time Willie Parker sees Steelers rookie running back Rashard Mendenhall, he cannot help but think of Jerome Bettis.
The thought has nothing to do with Mendenhall's running style. It has to do with the way Bettis -- a future Hall of Famer -- embraced and tutored Parker as a rookie, which eventually led to Pittsburgh winning a Super Bowl their second year together in 2005.

"JB always kept it real with me,'' Parker said glowingly. "He told me as long as I passed the blueprint on to somebody else and not be selfish, that's the only way we can have the running back tradition that we've had here. So, yeah, it's my turn."
Parker's mentality has the potential to bring a smile to coach Mike Tomlin's face.
The Steelers' second-year coach says there is "great chemistry" and an "unwritten rule" of mentorship in Pittsburgh. The veterans teach the rookies the Steelers' way of doing things as soon as they get in the door, and the rookies are better off because of it. It's one of the reasons Pittsburgh remains one of the NFL's steadiest and most successful franchises.

Parker is not alone. Veteran receiver Hines Ward expressed the same sentiment about his relationship with Pittsburgh's second-round pick, Limas Sweed. Ward sat out of minicamp following offseason knee surgery but was very hands-on with Sweed throughout the weekend, as he was in the past with Plaxico Burress and current teammate Santonio Holmes.
Ward cited former Steelers such as Courtney Hawkins and Charles Johnson as reasons he was able to produce early in his career.
"Those guys brought me in,'' Ward said. "Unfortunately, they left and I was the leader in Year 3, and it was me just learning on the run. But I remember vividly just coming into the league. In my time it was [looking up to] Kordell [Stewart] and Jerome, now these guys, they see Ben [Roethlisberger] and Troy [Polamalu] and they're in awe.''
Mendenhall, 20, is in awe mostly because he never thought he would become a Steeler.

One of the most memorable things Bettis told Parker in his rookie season was that he should always push the veteran as hard as he could, Parker said. That way, Bettis remained sharp as the starter, and Parker in turn became a better running back. Years later, that same advice is being passed down to Mendenhall.

Memo to Bettis: "Fast Willie" is keeping his promise.
James Walker covers the NFL for ESPN.com


Good take comes with continuity.....something current mgt still needs to learn if they can...... friends


rich4eagle....the future is now........Offense Wins..franchise QB's rock....were da hell did duh wmd go
 
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I think that's nice, but hardly a Steelers copyright. Some players are better mentors than others... and some teams are just smarter than others, more unified than others, more stocked with leaders than others, etc.

All rivalry aside, I think the Steelers have a really good team culture. I think the Browns are new to winning and continuity, so it's really early to compare. But they have a players' coach and newcomers praise the upbeat atmosphere and unified locker room, so it sounds like a nice foundation.

Crennel is a Patriot guy, so character is huge. Opposite of the Bengals, obviously.
 
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Maybe losing the team had a lot to do with it.


Ya think?

With the revolving door of players, coaches,coordinators, systems,terminology, management....it is testament to how Savage developed this team with a blueprint and stuck to it. Last week he thanked the fans for patience and we are poised to finally be a real football team that can beat anyone! Boy o boy has it been a long long time! Thanks Phil!!!
 
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Who cares about the Steelers Running Backs and their man love. You think Harrison and Wright don't benefit from Lewis?

And lets face it, Lewis has done more than Parker, so for him to presume he has something to pass on is laughable.

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Something the Browns are missing


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Something the Browns are missing


Nads?


whats that shit on your fingers, is it some man love toy that you stick up your boyfriends ass?

GTFO!


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those run on 2.4Ghz....they kept getting the cords wrapped around their necks....
 
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Lewis had more to do with the development of Wright, Harrison, Winslow and Edwards in just one year than Slick Willie could ever have on some Illinois running back. He taught these guys how to be pros, both in taking care of their bodies, game preparedness and with their actions on the field, which is why the Browns definitely wanted him back and gave him the three years.

Right now, there is a broad, organizational foundation growing of pride, leadership and professionalism that hasn't been seen around here since the pre-Belichick days. This comes from maintaining character and values as a team, and even though a guy like Lewis had past issues, he has persevered and grown as a man and the Browns knew this when they acquired him.

Joe Thomas is going to be a rock for years to come, and I'd venture to say future core leaders will be Quinn, Edwards, Winslow, Steinbach, Fraley now, JJ now, Jones, Wimbley, Jackson, Cribbs, S Smith and others.

Browns players are now being more revered in the community as decent people to go along with their stardom and the players feed off it. Very much 80's like.



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I don't remember if it was Harrison or Wright, but one of them spent last off-season training with Lewis. He did every workout with him, every drill, even followed the same diet (think it was Harrison).

If that is not mentoring, I don't know what is!!!

So, despite the fact that fast willie is accepting Mendenhall into the backfield...it is most definitely NOT something the Browns are lacking.

If Harrison/Wright take advantage of whay Lewis is offering again this off-season (and that same article stated the guy who trained with him would be back), you may find the Browns with 3 very effective backs...not just a 'fast' guy and his rookie twin.


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Nads?

One for the other thumb coming up next.


Chuck,
If you said a culture of steroid use, early passing of former players, and consistent wife beating you'd be closer to the truth. You can keep your Steelers culture and false glory.

Championships are championships -- and your team is STILL behind in the count!


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Lewis trained both of them and about killed 'em. They couldn't believe his workout and diet regimen. He taught both how to eat right and also how to approach the game more maturely. Wright was already a pretty sharp guy, but Harrison was noticeably improved last year and should be much better this season. The Browns are geeked about him, Phil said so.



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This was an insult in sheep's clothing, BTW. Soldier is a Steelers fan, as is Rich (and you know I love you, my fellow Democrat).
 
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I wasn't going to give Soldier the satisfaction of calling him a Pitt fan, his charade is that bad.

da ich is not a Pitt fan, he just uses it as a prop to be an ich.



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This was an insult in sheep's clothing, BTW. Soldier is a Steelers fan, as is Rich (and you know I love you, my fellow Democrat).


Be that as is may, this post still rings with a hint of truth. It is hard to establish a culture when management is rebuilding and the team is losing every year. Mentorship doesn't just happen. It is done by core veteran players who have been with the organization for a long time. A team coming back from a 5 year hiatus that changes coaches and the entire roster every 2 years doesn't have an identity or a culture of mentorship. I just doesn't. Pittsburgh, Baltimore (from Cleveland), and Cincy (although in the wrong way) have all been able to have core players that pass along lessons learned and have a vested interest in the organization succeeding. I think the Browns are just now getting to that point. The emergence of J. Lewis and McGinest in the locker room is a perfect example.


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I respect the Steeler success and the way they run their team.

Browns season ticket holder at Municipal stadium and since the return. Been paying the price (both figurativly and literally) of following the Browns since the late 60's. Cheered when Turkey planted Bradshaw, loved the 51-0 thumping, and went nuts when Winslow wiped Porter off his jersey.

No respect for Bengals, Ravens, but as a fan of football, respect for Steelers. (sorry)
 
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This thread is cool like drinking coke at Coca Cola headquarters in Atlanta


rich4eagle....the future is now........Offense Wins..franchise QB's rock....were da hell did duh wmd go
 
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I respect the Steeler success and the way they run their team.


Translation: I'm a Steelers fan.
 
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This thread is cool like drinking coke at Coca Cola headquarters in Atlanta


Translation: I'm a good Democrat... and a Steelers fan.
 
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Good Democrats don't drink Coke.


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