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Originally posted by Westside Steve:
Well you kid yourself the public cares about the environment.
Every time gas jumps the polls turn to drilling.

WSS

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Probably true. However, when the most charitable estimate is that it will lower oil prices by two cents twenty-five years from now, isn't that evidence that the polls show that people simply don't understand the issue?

Well that's kinda evident about just about everything people want or believe, ain't it?


Let's see...put money into developing alternative fuels, or waste time trying to pump for oil so that Exxon will spend a nickle less on a barrel a quarter-century from now. That's a no-brainer; they're sure to gas prices when the price of crude sinks so low.

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Originally posted by Westside Steve:
Lets see... put your money in wasteful boondoggles and ineffective government spending on shit that some senators state has an interest in?
While steadfastly opposing the one we know works well?
Doesn't seem like a winner either does it?

But hey if you thin an oil rig in ANWR is uglier than a row of windmills on the beach as Nags Head.......
WSS

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As to the first part, you're saying that alternative fuels are wasteful, ineffective frauds?

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Originally posted by Westside Steve:
I'm saying there are some now and will be more as beaurcrats have more and more tax money to throw at any asswipe with a perpetual motion plan.

But nukes work now.
Right?
And if you don't care about pristine what's the beef?

Or just buying into the old "I Hate The Oil Company" rant?

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But we're into that "Oh my God we only have a week!!!" frenzy.
The private sector will figure out both what works and what's profitable.
It will take a while, but they're on it.
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Same as it was 20 years ago.
It just isn't available yet.
We didn't just shoot all the horses in one week to force everyone to buy automobiles.

WSS

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I've said several times that I favor nuclear power. What does that have to do with cars? And what do oil companies have to do with nuclear power?

Well I thing going back to electric public transportation and local driving is part of what we can do in the relatively nerar future.


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I agree with a lot of that--the private sector will need to drive the move to alternative fuel cars, as it should. Nevertheless, to use your analogy, when cars really took off, the government built roads and passed laws to reflect the new transportation reality, rather than wasting time trying to develop a superhorse just in case