Let me get this straight. We should legalize pot because the gov't has failed at its well funded program to stop it. This same program that has been run by both parties and has the support of most of America. It has failed.

So why exactly do you think the same gov't can create a program to wipe out poverity. I think stopping Pot would be a lot easier. Not only that, you want to legalize a drug that by your own thought patter would hit the inner cities the hardest. Since these kids already lack direction and guidence would not cheap drugs just add to the problems they face.

Does not leagalizing pot require people to take on the personal responsibility for themselves and their children. Is this not the same personaly responsibility that you beleive we should make up for by creating program after program to take care f people.

Which is it? So Timmy has enough responsibility to stay away from abusing pot but not enough to get off his butt and finish High School.

Dem at work.

This is so stupid I really don't think I should bother.

First of all, who is talking about legalization? And who talking about wiping out poverty? And who is...

Oh, nevermind.

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
This is so stupid I really don't think I should bother.

First of all, who is talking about legalization? And who talking about wiping out poverty? And who is...

Oh, nevermind.

Let's not be too hasty, Heck. The government won the Civil War, developed the first working nuclear weapon, defeated Hitler, and put a man on the moon. Therefore, it only stands to reason that an anti-poverty immortality ray is just around the corner.

Dennis

"First of all, who is talking about legalization? "

"Marijuana decriminalization"

Means what? No wonder you keep getting sold swampland, do you even know what you wrote.

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Originally posted by Dencyguy:

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
This is so stupid I really don't think I should bother.

First of all, who is talking about legalization? And who talking about wiping out poverty? And who is...

Oh, nevermind.

Let's not be too hasty, Heck. The government won the Civil War, developed the first working nuclear weapon, defeated Hitler, and put a man on the moon. Therefore, it only stands to reason that an anti-poverty immortality ray is just around the corner.

Dennis

Flying cars. Is that too much to ask? Marty McFly rides a hoverboard in 8 yrs. Make it happen is all I'm saying.

Nav. Oh, Nav.

Decriminalization and legalization are two different things. Jaywalking is illegal, but it's not... oh, nevermind.

...Wait, who is getting sold swampland again?

How is it to different things? If it is no longer a criminal act then what is it? What it is still illegal but just with no penality if you brake the law...

He sounds like a Dem candidate for Pres. I did not smoke that weed and if I did well it is not punishable anyway.

This is to much.

Nav-

It's the difference between a "just a" ticket & handcuffs.

So there is no penality. So what really is the difference? Oh wait we will waste even more time writing tickets. We all know how that deters teenagers.

Bottom line, how can you expect people to take responsibilty here and not in other areas.

And sorry but I do not see a real difference between the to, ok maybe you cannot buy it at Wal-Mart but I bet it will be avaible right outside.

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Originally posted by NAVDAWG:
So there is no penality. So what really is the difference? Oh wait we will waste even more time writing tickets. We all know how that deters teenagers.

Bottom line, how can you expect people to take responsibilty here and not in other areas.

And sorry but I do not see a real difference between the to, ok maybe you cannot buy it at Wal-Mart but I bet it will be avaible right outside.

You are aware of the fact that people actually have to pay speeding tickets, right? Or are you suggesting that the best way to limit speeding is to make it a misdemeanor?

Dennis
Also, this might be a minor, English-teacher thing, but it's tWo! TWO! But, since it's a minor thing, I'd rather just point it out...only a retard would want to carry out a harsh punishment for a minor offense. If only there were some kind of analogy for that situation...

Yes, it's clear you don't know the difference.

You're making a fool out of yourself, attacking me for supposedly not getting it when you're ...not getting it.

Usually people slink away when that happens, not lash out.

LISTEN:

Heck started a thread here supporting the notion that 9/11 was started by the US Government.

'Nuff said.

Something about "Loose Change" that Heck said was a movie worth considering because it shows the US might have bombed itself to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. I should go find it.

No I get the difference and I think it is a joke.

Reason for decriminalizing it is that to many people are busted and in the system, they are taking up space in jails and prison and not again NOT paying their fines.

So, making it a slap on the wrist and a "Speeding Ticket" is going to deter no-one and cost Law Enforcement and local courts time and money enforcing a law that the Federal Gov't could not.

In other words, it will basiclly be leagal as you will have to do something really stupid to get a ticket. You can speed without getting a ticket, you just have to stay within the social guidelines of exceptable speed on the highway.

I have no problem legalizing it. I think it is a joke that it is not. I also think people should have the personability responsibility to handle it like Smoking or Drinking.

I get a kick out of the fact that the War on Drugs has failed, proving the Gov't cannot again cannot stop the law of supply and demand. We wasted how much money on this. But as any good Dem, you want to start up another program taking care of society that will not work.

Not to mention, the people that you uwant to spend more money on helping are going to be the ones that benfit most from your decriminalization of pot. Better tack on a couple of Mil extra, a lot of people are going to have the munchies.

Desert Dawg, you're so full of shit. You just made a charge that is completely ridiculous. So yeah, go see if you can find where I said "9/11 was started by the US Government". Yes, get back to us.

And Nav, you didn't know the difference. And judging from your rant, you still don't really get this issue at all. But that's okay. It's no surprise.

I do get the issue. You would have us spend spend spend and then when it does not work out, well spend spend spend on something else. The fact that you cannot see how stupid it is on one hand to support the de-criminaliztion of Pot because your Gov't program has failed, and on the other hand want to put more money into the same neighborhoods that will be hit hardest by this to motivate them is a freakin joke.

You crack me up.

And DD, I'm still waiting on that Loose Change-9/11 Truther stuff.

Nav-

The neighborhoods where you think that the decriminalization of pot is going to somehow make worse :

a) have been carrying on like pot was legal for some time now. selling, consuming, stealing. A lot of "them" sell pot to get busted to go to prison to get a real "education" for when they get back out. I don't think the handcuff to ticket transition will have any effect on them. Except maybe take away their "scholorships" to Riker's Island University.

b)can't really get any worse.

i fail to see how decriminalization will cost more than the war on drugs.

how much does it cost to write a ticket?

now compare that to the cost of prosecuting a "criminal" and jailing them for years.....

think mcfly....