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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
I think that's an entirely appropriate question for you to be asking of him. In fact, the sooner people start seeing this guy as a politician and not some deity the better off we'll all be.

So in some sense, I'm glad this happened to him now instead of in October.


I completely agree. I just hope he sees October because of it. Still think in my heart of hearts that Shrill will steal the Super Del. from him.
 
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This will be around for a while because it works, but there around about 40 news cycles left to fill before Pennsylvania, and they'll fill them.
 
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True. I've got a gut that the other two will step up to the plate & offer something equally ridiculous before then.
 
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In fact, the sooner people start seeing this guy as a politician and not some deity the better off we'll all be.



Now there's a concept.

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Originally posted by We need Tom Tupa:
I dont rely on elected leaders for inspiration. I dont mean that as an insult to you, just to explain that I value other attributes more than I value a candidate's ability to inspire me.
- Tupa


You seemed to think those were important or you wouldn't have mentioned them correct? I only replied to your quote of: "He is a great speaker and will inspire many people to great things." That's a BIG part of being a leader Tupa. Getting people to DO things or as you better put it "great things." There's some ENORMOUS challenges confronting the 3 top candidates so you're going to NEED people to be inspired to take action. Smokers don't QUIT smoking because they hear it's bad for them - they quit smoking because there's a CUE to action. Something inspires them to TAKE action or otherwise, it doesn't penetrate the old "that doesn't pertain to me" mentality.

I look at healthcare and see that in order to GET progress we need "great things" from our people. Perhaps first this starts with getting MOST of those truck drivers, factory workers and people that don't spend the spare time reading up on politics to understand 45-50 million HARD-working middle class Americans just LIKE THEM are going without healthcare coverage. Seems to me the fire keeps getting bigger and not smaller so we need great things there. Unfortunately, one group of leaders BLAMES the last group of leaders when they get asked HOW they are going to tackle the problem ONCE they've been hired to deliver the goodies they've promised. I'll be watching all this shake out and I'll be loking for a plan instead of never ending spinning compass on the direction we're headed.

The economy requires GREAT things from people to shift the direction and momentum of the direction picking up warped speed. McCain is 73 and all I can think of when I watch the guy is "where's my Cane?" If I say that fast or with an Irish accent it sounds like I'm asking: "Where's McCain?"

And now the war against whomever our government wants us to THINK it's against along with the CIVIL war going on over there means we're sweeping all our own domestic stuff under the rug while we're concentrating on 1 man's mission. First we were after Bin Laden - anyone CHOOSE to remember that? THEN it became a pretentious hunt for weapons of mass destruction. As we learned - they didn't have any weapons of mas destruction. And as Heck recently pointed out - we're being told that Al Queda is killing our soldiers instead of the Civil War Bush inspired over there. NOW, it's turned into - "we can't just pull out - we have to finish what we started." Oh yeah? SHOW ME a FREAKIN progress report so we can discuss this alleged light at the end of the tunnel our soldiers and their families are only seeing as the headlamp of an oncoming train.

Just out of curiosity, what SPECIFICALLY about an American economy on its way to a recession is supposed to impress the Iraq citizens most? Back to your concept of leadership and inspiration - IF we had a charismatic leader PERHAPS he could INSPIRE the people toward what he wants is them all buying into the American type of government. They were confused because at first they had 1 leader they hated removed and then they got Bush and saw right through him almost to the point of "how is this any different?" Everything that guy touches from the Texas Rangers to Texas education to the American Economy to foreign politics just freakin nose-dives. Texas always ranked dead last out of 50 states in education under his leadership. I'll bet his brother's state isn't much better (ie: they weren't smart enough to handle COUNTING the votes AND they trained the terrorists to fly).
- Tom F.
 
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great post tom..........nuff said
 
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Flugels doesn't know diddley, most of us don't, except from the soldiers who HAVE BEEN OVER THERE.

And Flugs was never a soldier, never over there.

But it's all nicey nicey to wax liberal talky points.

Meanwhile, Obumba would slash military spending and support by profoundly damaging margins of stupidity...

And Hitlery would tax us all out the wazoo to be healthcare dictator who will have her state dept minions whack everybody on the those to force them into her "system" to be able to buy votes from the poor who would get free healthcare...

And Flugels criticizes McCain? ROFLMAO poop
 
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Got to agree, why do I have the feeling if something happened in LA it would be a different story. Yep, we can just leave and the terrorists are going to go home and make nice, oh wait that has not happened since Carter was here. I miss Reagan

Health care, yep lets raise taxes to pick up more slack. How about jumping on the take care of your health bandwagon, maybe then we would not have to pick up half these tabs.

The economy, let me ask how bad have you been hit. You know I can go shopping for a lot of things that are the same price as there were 5 or 10 years ago. Just have to be smart about it. As for the Mortgage crisis, while some honest people were hurt, more of it were people trying to flip houses, refianced their homes for 110% expecting them to go up or bought a house out of there budget becuase they got an interest only loan. Tired of this crap.

What do the people in Iraq see, a place where women are not beaten to death and given a chance to get an education. A hope that things can get better, but there is a lot of work to do.
 
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lemme get this straight...

in a recession, its a good idea to take money out of the hands of consumers and pump it into the fed so they can fail at providing any of the services they promise?

is it even a good idea when the economy is strong?
 
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Nope but how can they get elected if they do not promise something and continue to keep a class of people always in needs to ensure a voter base. Lets look at all the programs before that have worked......
 
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