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I could say you're an idiot


And I could say you're an optimist, but nobody would take either very seriously. I mean, you could form the words and make sounds, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.


Shep, calling you an idiot is indeed optimistic.
Like the exit polls, you're probably going to actually come out a few IQ points less in the final tally.

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FWIW, Drudge says the exits in NC predict an easy win for Obama.
 
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In Indiana, there's heavy turnout in counties crucial for Obama: a county close to Illinois (part of Chicago media market), the county that includes Indianapolis (large Af-Am population), and the county that includes Indiana University (college kids for Obama!).
 
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Aloysius, my guess is this is the Clinton campaign leaking to Drudge to set expectations low. They do it every time. I can never tell if Drudge falls for it every time, or if he just likes to play along.

It's not going to be an Obama blowout. That's my feeling. But I could be wrong. He did get a little shift in the last few days. I think people hear about all this Wright and Ayers crap and it bothers them for a bit, then they shake it off and realize it's not that big a deal.
 
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Exit polling of African-Americans voters

Indiana: Obama 92%, Clinton 8%

North Carolina: Obama 91%, Clinton 6%
 
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Yeah, I think that would be a good result for him.

Hey, one thing most people don't note when they complain about how long this Dem primary season has gone on is just how many new voters it's bringing out. Turnout is reportedly huge today, and it's been that way in just about every primary/caucus. That means a lot of new voters are coming out, and many have to register as Democrats to do it.

When you look at stats, once people vote for a candidate in a primary, they become personally invested in that candidate and usually end up voting for them in the general election.

There are a lot of new voters being added here, and a very strong percentage of them are going to vote for the Democratic nominee. That's the upside.

The downside is that they're beating each other up. But I actually think the good will end up outweighing the bad.
 
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Love those black voter numbers. She can partially thank Bill for those.
 
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This is from seven months ago:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead over Sen. Barack Obama, her chief rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, is growing among African-American voters who are registered Democrats, and particularly among black women, a poll said Wednesday.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is the top choice of African-American Democrats, a new poll suggests.

Among black registered Democrats overall, Clinton had a 57 percent to 33 percent lead over Obama.

That's up from 53 percent for Clinton and 36 percent for Obama in a poll carried out in April.


...The last person who lost the support of the black community that fast that was Michael Richards.
 
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She got 13% of the black vote in Ohio, 10% in Pennsylvania.

Fortunately for her, the next state (West Virginia) is only 3.2% black.
 
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Exit polling of African-Americans voters

Indiana: Obama 92%, Clinton 8%

North Carolina: Obama 91%, Clinton 6%


I guess Diehead ain't so stupid after all,,,,,,,,,,,of course two above says the polls publish numbers in spite of what happened
 
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I think the thing to look for in the coming days/weeks will be when he surpasses her in the superdelegate lead. That's going to be a pretty big psychological shift. And depending on what happens today, I imagine will could happen fairly soon.

Really, let's be honest. All she's got is the Florida/Michigan strategy anyway, and that ain't going to work.
 
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I think the thing to look for in the coming days/weeks will be when he surpasses her in the superdelegate lead. That's going to be a pretty big psychological shift. And depending on what happens today, I imagine will could happen fairly soon.

Really, let's be honest. All she's got is the Florida/Michigan strategy anyway, and that ain't going to work.


It matters if those two states get pissed off and vote for McCain.
That's the only leverage she has there.
The law won't bail her out IMO.
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...just felt like posting this
 
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So McCain wins and we no have economic policy but a good war strategy beating the defenseless

the pix was cool dough
 
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If I thought an Obama candidacy was hopeless, I obviously wouldn't be an Obama supporter.

And if I thought Hillary's foreign policy wasn't so liberal hawkish, I probably wouldn't have turned to Obama in the first place.
 
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So why did I know both statements without ever reading them until now.................your bias is obvious

your intent is awesome keep at it

and remember the right wing conrols America huge

Obama is road kill in November

so do what pleases you

more war or a Clinton..........and worse wrecking America's dynasty and self destructing

that is my take
 
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Love those black voter numbers. She can partially thank Bill for those.


Come on now. Bill was the first Black President.
 
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Bill was the first Black President.

I love how Toni Morrison, who coined "the first black president" phrase, endorsed Obama.
 
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love yah like a brother John but that was below the belt...........shame on u
 
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Networks call NC for Obama

Based on exits, Fox News is predicting a 52-48 win for Clinton in Indiana.
 
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