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The Post-American World

If you have not read this guy, do not be fooled by his title. He is a Foreign Policy savant, a genius at describing our past and present.

He is not anti-American. He is brilliant in how we should adapt and prepare fot globalization.

I have never been a fan of the liberal rag NEWSWEEK, but I bought it because my nephew needed to sell mags.

Let me tell you this guy a one of my favorite writers on our past and present. He is better than Thomas Friedman, and I think Friedman is a great writer.

Here is the book:

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"This is not a book about the decline of America, but rather about the rise of everyone else." So begins Fareed Zakaria's important new work on the era we are now entering. Following on the success of his best-selling The Future of Freedom, Zakaria describes with equal prescience a world in which the United States will no longer dominate the global economy, orchestrate geopolitics, or overwhelm cultures. He sees the "rise of the rest"—the growth of countries like China, India, Brazil, Russia, and many others—as the great story of our time, and one that will reshape the world. The tallest buildings, biggest dams, largest-selling movies, and most advanced cell phones are all being built outside the United States. This economic growth is producing political confidence, national pride, and potentially international problems. How should the United States understand and thrive in this rapidly changing international climate? What does it mean to live in a truly global era? Zakaria answers these questions with his customary lucidity, insight, and imagination.



http://www.amazon.com/Post-American-World-Fareed-Zakari...id=1210492134&sr=8-1
 
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Mr. Zakaria has written a short primer (250+ pages of text) about where the world is today and the role he sees the United States playing in the future. His assessment, for the most part, is fair, balanced and nonpartisan. And though the title of his treatise--The Post-American World--sounds pessimistic, in reality Mr. Zakaria sees the glass half full.

The principal weakness of the book is a product of its brevity: the author paints in broad strokes, providing a sweeping assessment of the dynamic changes that have unfolded on the world scene over the past twenty-five years. This invariably results in some over-generalizations and assessments that are not sufficiently nuanced. For example, in responding to concerns about China's growing power and influence, he quotes several Chinese officials who repeatedly reassure the listener that, notwithstanding its recent advances, China still lags behind the United States in so many areas; consequently, it poses no real threat to America or its neighbors. Instead of taking these sentiments at face value, Mr. Zakaria should remember, as Margaret Macmillan astutely noted in her recent book, "Nixon and Mao: The Week That Changed the World," that the Chinese are the past masters at using self-effacement to lure their adversaries into a state of complacency.

The greatest strengths of the book are explaining to the reader how much the world has changed over the past 25 years (did you know that China now exports more goods and services in a single day than it did in all of 1978?), while illuminating the course corrections the United States needs to make so that it can continue to influence the evolution of globalization. I was surprised to discover that the simple truths taught by Adam Smith have lifted more people above the poverty line in the last 25 years (400 million in China alone) than all the government assistance programs of all the countries in the world since the beginning of time. But I was dismayed to learn that the polices of free trade, liberal immigration, technological change and open government that are the source of this global revolution are no longer warmly received in the United States. Mr. Zakaria notes that in 2007 the Pew Global Attitudes Survey polled citizens in 47 countries for purposes of measuring the extent to which they have positive views about free trade and open markets. Guess where the U.S. came in? Dead last. Mr. Zakaria observes that in the five years the survey has been done, no country has seen as great a drop-off as the United States. It's as if, he says, that for the past sixty years we have extolled the virtues of free markets, immigration, technological change, competition, and democracy, and now that the rest of the world has finally decided to take our advice, "we are becoming suspicious of the very things we have long celebrated." (p. 48).

If you want to look in the mirror and see the warts and disappointments, along with the beauty and promise, of America, read this book. You and our country will be better for it.


I agree that Zakaria always sees the glass as half full, but what I do not agree with is this reviewers take that he is naieve about China. Far from it, Zakaria knows exactly what scares the US about China and vice versa.

What is so inviting about Zakaria is that he is so smart about engagement - with Iran, N Korea, Hamas, etc... He is not Jimmy Carter, but he is also not George Bush. He presses for talks with the Iranians, the N Koreans, the terrorists. Not to bargain, but to negotiate from strength.

What can be lost from talking with Iran? But he also understands that bargaining and giving into the Irainians and Syrians is foolish.

The book is short, and I agree maybe some think incomplete. But this guy should be our Sec of State and be able to carte blanch run the State Dept.

He doesn't want to of course.
 
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He's practically a regular on The Daily Show (13 appearances). The guy is so smart and so likable, I think he's my very favorite guest.

BTW, I have no idea why anybody would knock the Daily Show. McCain is one of his biggest fans and most regular guests. Newt Gingrich and Stewart have (yeah, I'm gonna use this word) delightful and very civil exchanges. I don't mind saying that I like Gingrich now.

People who watch the Daily Show know a lot more than people who don't, unless they spend hours a day scouring newspapers. The guests are great.
 
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I have to admit that I'm much less of a TDS fan than I used to be. As for the audience, I don't for a second think that they are better-informed because they watch the show; it's an issue of correlation vs. causation.

Don't get me wrong; it can still be very enjoyable, but I generally watch now because I know a specific guest is going to be on (Christopher Hitchens, for instance). Part of it is my growing sense of guilt that, as a grad student and a member of Generation X, I am part of two institutions whose greatest contributions to American society have been smarmy self-satisfaction and the raising of irony to the level of a cardinal virtue.

Plus, the show has devolved into a kind of "Married with Children" for NPR listeners (for the record, I liked "MWC," and I'm a big NPR fan)...he comes out, throws out a cursory "Bush is stupid" joke, and the crowd claps like trained seals begging for a fish in a tote bag. That, and the "oooh, the host got bleeped for saying a bad word!" bit stopped being funny a long time ago.

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Dennis, I'm not sure I caught why someone watching The Daily Show with their great guest list wouldn't pick up a crazy amount of information... as opposed to watching the celebrity reacharounds on most talk shows?

Honestly, I feel like I learn a lot watching it. Fairly often, someone will tweak my interest and I'll go digging elsewhere.

He flips a ton of shit at Clinton, Pelosi, et al, too.
 
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Dennis, I'm not sure I caught why someone watching The Daily Show with their great guest list wouldn't pick up a crazy amount of information... as opposed to watching the celebrity reacharounds on most talk shows?

Honestly, I feel like I learn a lot watching it. Fairly often, someone will tweak my interest and I'll go digging elsewhere.


That's a valid point. At the same time, I think the same amount of information can be gained by watching the News Hour with Jim Lehrer.

One problem that I have is the supposition that every show not on Comedy Central is somehow distracting people from the real issues. "Larry King asked a dumb question. See? CNN isn't fulfilling its public mandate!" When people should realize that a) nobody who's honestly looking at the thing thinks that Larry King is "hard news," and b) more importantly, CNN has no public mandate whatsoever. It's a business whose job it is to get people to watch. If Larry King or...shudder...Nancy Grace brings in the viewers, they've done their job. Would a more substantive discussion be better? Sure, but you're not likely to see that outside of public broadcasting--even on TDS, the "grown-up" converstations only last about five minutes.

As I alluded to in my earlier post, I think that TDS's biggest problem is that, for me, they're just not particularly amusing anymore. I like Larry Wilmore and Rob Riggle, and I always get a kick out of John Hodgman and Lewis Black, but the days of Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert are long gone.

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Give me Lehrer, Matthews, Olbermann, and maybe an old Simpsons and/or Futurama episode, and I'll call it a good day.
 
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As I alluded to in my earlier post, I think that TDS's biggest problem is that, for me, they're just not particularly amusing anymore.

Well I still like the show.
(thjough the interviews suck. Kiss the lefties butts and have your idiot audience shout down the rest Maher style...)
Not Colbert, who I see as a hanger on overly impressed with himself.
It's a one trick pony that wouldn't even be watched but of the left wing bent.

As for TDS as long as you keep in mind that you're going to get about as much useable news as you will from Hannity's America have fun.

I used to like Matthews but he's turning into a male Elanor Clift lately.

Hey speaking of semi relevant TV has anyone seen Talk Soup lately?
New format kinda but seems like they're lampooning stuff that's already been, uh, pooned.

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I like Larry Wilmore and Rob Riggle, and I always get a kick out of John Hodgman and Lewis Black, but the days of Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert are long gone.
 
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I watch both "The Soup" and "Best Week Ever" because I find pop culture endlessly hilarious. Especially reality shows and reality stars. Oh, and Hollywood shows and the cult of celebrity in general.
 
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I watch both "The Soup" and "Best Week Ever" because I find pop culture endlessly hilarious. Especially reality shows and reality stars. Oh, and Hollywood shows and the cult of celebrity in general.


True enough.
Just seems like the Soup ain't getting the mainstream clips it uesd to.
Maybe it's by design.

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I think they like digging into stuff that isn't showing everywhere else. They love Tyra, though. And Bad Girls Club.
 
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I think they like digging into stuff that isn't showing everywhere else. They love Tyra, though. And Bad Girls Club.


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I think they like digging into stuff that isn't showing everywhere else. They love Tyra, though. And Bad Girls Club.


Why don't you two Moe's just get a room.


Actually he's Larry.
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Or Shemp. I think somebody around here thought it was CRAZY clever to call me that.

Shepwrong is more gold, Jerry.
 
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Or Shemp. I think somebody around here thought it was CRAZY clever to call me that.

Shepwrong is more gold, Jerry.


That's Moses, Sam.

But Shempwrite works for me.....

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Zakaria is a good egg. I always enjoy watching him on the show despite the home run derby Stewart pitches to him.

Agreed on the current state of the show. Particularly this:
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he comes out, throws out a cursory "Bush is stupid" joke, and the crowd claps like trained seals begging for a fish in a tote bag. That, and the "oooh, the host got bleeped for saying a bad word!" bit stopped being funny a long time ago.
 
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The crowd is clearly liberal. But Stewart goes after Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Hillary Herself.

No doubt he holds the bottom slot for Bush, but... come on. This side of Fox News, who doesn't?

Fox News had some doc clip that Stewart showed... said Bush went from malaprops to some of the greatest speeches ever delivered by a president. They were dead ****ing serious, but you could hear crew people cracking up.

Well, you couldn't hear them, but you could imagine it.
 
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I enjoyed Zakaria's take on McCain's crazy foreign policy outlook:
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Mccain Vs. Mccain

He seems to think he can magically unite the two main strands in the foreign-policy establishment. He can't.

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Updated: 2:03 PM ET Apr 26, 2008

Amid the din of the dueling democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race—you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil—but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous—that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives—which would make American safe and the world more secure—we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply—involving trade, pollution, currencies—and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State—and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?
 
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Fox News had some doc clip that Stewart showed... said Bush went from malaprops to some of the greatest speeches ever delivered by a president. They were dead ****ing serious, but you could hear crew people cracking up.

Well, you couldn't hear them, but you could imagine it. Shep
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Within two days, Cal (yes, THAT Cal) has taken shots at John Lennon and Barrack Obama. I figure Ghandi is next.

Great, great article, Al. This just isn't the McCain we all loved five years ago. He's sold out. He's old, he's pandering, and he's a little crazy.
 
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Within two days, Cal (yes, THAT Cal) has taken shots at John Lennon and Barrack Obama. I figure Ghandi is next.


Hey, Ghandi was no saint. Among his other traits that generally don't show up on the sugar packets are the fact that he used to sleep with naked teenage girls (to "prove his chastity") and his racism toward Africans. Remember, he got his start as a lawyer in South Africa. He would later write that the Indians needed their independence, as opposed to the "kaffir" (or kaffirs, I can't remember what the plural is) in Africa, who were perfectly happy to be subjugated as long as they didn't have to do any heavy lifting.

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