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I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Jimmy Carter believes in it. And whatshername that punched the cop seems crazy enough. The problem is that nobody really asks the Democrats about it--since their religious pandering is limited to going to a black church and saying something abotu Martin Luther King, it's not on display for all to see. Prime example: when Romney was still in the race, a lot of people seemed curious as to whether or not he wore those sacred long underwear things. Someone brought up an interesting question: why not ask Harry Reid? Or one of the Udalls? They're Mormons as well, and in high office. It seems fair to ask them as well. Dennis |
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Yes Steve be ashamed of saying it to an intelligent person, next time say it to a dumb ass like MZ. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
And if you can show me where Jimmy Carter believes in demonic possession, and that friends of the afflicted can get together and pray for Christ to drive out the spirit (and perhaps the skin cancer, too!) as a remedy, I'll say he's got lunatic, fundamentalist views as well.
If you want to talk about Cynthia McKinney being an idiot and an embarrassment to the Party, you'll get no argument from me. And yes, in my mind Harry Reid's Mormon theology is just as curious and incredible as Mitt Romney's, if we assume Reid is as devout as Romney is. Indeed. |
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Bring back JoeSixPack Hall of Fame Legend  |
And this, coming from the biggest sheep out there. Par for the course...keep being told what to think. Just when I thought you had me on ignore, Jeffro, you popped up again. Come on...let's kiss and make up sexypants! It'll be fun. I'll promise to be gentle...  |
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To be honest, I've never heard Carter say that he believes in exorcism. I was going on other things: being attacked by a killer rabbit, spotting a UFO, etc. As I said, I wouldn't be shocked if he turned the hat trick. Dennis |
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Whatever trips your trigger dummy! You just fell into my trap genius! I always knew you were a dumb ass! |
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters  |
I haven't heard him say it. Then again I've never heard him say he did not belive in demos and such. I'd bet, knowing his strong fundamental Christian beliefs he does. And I'd be glad to bet that holds true for millions of devout Baptists. Yes, even Democrats. And personally,Heck, I don't have a big problem with a sandidates faith even if it's different from mine. Yes even if he takes the faith as guidance as to how he'll govern. All religions? No, of course not. But the demon thing is part of Cathjolicism, and I never heard your boy Kerry denounce it. But are you telling me you wouldn't vote for Obama if he said he believed in demons and hell? His faith as it is seems widely opposed to yours, no? WSS |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
I don't have a problem with religious people that incorporate doubt into their faith. Fundamentalism is the absence of doubt. And there's a whole range in between.
And I don't necessarily have a problem with people using their "faith" to guide how they govern. It depends on what that "faith" is, or what it's telling them to do. If it's a faith in Christ that informs them that the death penalty is morally wrong, that's one thing. If it's their faith informing them that we need to preserve the state of Israel because Jesus is coming back soon and he needs the Jews to be in Israel so he can give them the choice to convert or die, that's an entirely different thing. "Faith" isn't a good thing in and of itself. And just because someone says they have it, that doesn't mean a whole lot either. Nor is claiming that something is a "matter of faith" make it immune from criticism. As for assuming that "my boy" Kerry believes in demons because he's Catholic and hasn't publicly denounced demons (and when do you imagine he'd be publicly addressing the subject of demons?) I'd suggest you spend some more time with Catholics. I used to go to church with Catholics who barely believed a word the priest or the religion said, and yet still called themselves Catholics. Beats me why they waste their Sundays on something they don't believe in. But there are far more "cafeteria Catholics" than die hards where I came from. Which, incidentally, is not too far from where John Kerry is from. |
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Bring back JoeSixPack Hall of Fame Legend |
I guess I am stupid, because I never have any clue what you're babbling is all about. What trap did I fall into? Please help me out by explaining yourself. Fcuk it, it must be the moonshine. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Yeah, farting and cussing don't make me jump to demonic possession. If the devil's real, he really needs to make someone float in the air and speak languages they don't know.
With witnesses... and videotape. Then I'm listening. They can't seem to get anything like that on tape. Why not make a five-year-old speak fluent Chinese while doing the highest level of math? The devil should be able to do that. And if all he can do is cussing and farting, I'm not worried. |
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Hall of Famer |
No need to worry shep, your already going to hell anyway. No writers skills, no agenda? LMAO!
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Pro Bowl Player |
First of all, even if a tape of that was procured you would immediately denounce it as an obvious fake. You know you would, so please lets cut the "All I need is some proof" defense. Secondly if you understood what the adversary was all about then you would know that the greatest trick it ever pulled was convincing the world it didn't exist. It has much more power working through subtleties than direct force. Ever notice how like a ton of these stories come out of places like Africa and South America, 3rd world shit holes with a bunch of poor brown people (I'm not being derogatory, just stating facts). The story in this thread isn't alone as far as American possession cases go, but obviously we don't have demons possessing people left and right because in America they don't have to, we are a gluttonous people with a whole list of vices and things that separate us from God, the last thing the adversary wants is a bunch of people running to the Lord for deliverance from demon possession. So in essence a direct attack on a group of people who have not yet set up camp with the Lord would be counterproductive. In the 3rd world countries I firmly believe that because they don't have the tons of luxuries that we have that they are more connected with God than us. When you don't have anything at all, no running water, no indoor plumbing, no food, and disease all around you the only thing you CAN do is turn to God. Thus the increase in direct attacks. Of course this is all just my .02, you can take it or leave it. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Um, what??
I guess I'll leave it. |
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Bring back JoeSixPack Hall of Fame Legend |
Verbal Kint taught me that in Usual Suspects.  |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
It's tough to argue around that logic, huh?
Tim: "The devil exists." Tom: "But you have no proof that the devil exists." Tim: "That's because the devil tricks you into thinking he doesn't exist by not showing you any proof that he does exist." Tom: "...Are you for real?" |
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Yes because even in our infantile world, nothing is done in secret, everything is laid bare for everybody to see. |
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
So you just prefer people who lie about it over who practice it. So if I said Obama only joined the "Mystic Knights of the Sea" for political gain you now agree. Or not? WSS |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
No, the point is that your assumption that because Kerry hasn't publicly disavowed the existence of demon spirits this means that he must believe in them because he's Catholic, and therefore what's the difference between him and Jindal, doesn't make a lot of sense.
Not everyone who calls themselves Catholic believes in every piece of Catholic theology, or Catholic teachings, including some of the clergy. That doesn't make them liars, either. |
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Well I undeerstand the concept, but yeah, it does. WSS |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
No, it really doesn't.
How are they lying? Not following every single instruction of the Vatican and still calling yourself Catholic makes you a liar? I guess all the Jesuits are liars. |
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