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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Just go this e-mail from a fellow Hollywood Liberal:
This past Sunday, John McCain again embraced the political support of right-wing evangelist John Hagee, who said "Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans." I just signed a petition asking Senator McCain to stop seeking political support from hatemongers like Hagee. Senator McCain is actually in New Orleans today, and MoveOn members from that region will try to give him this petition. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Hell, there are probably people on this board who think that's right on.
He even goes further than that. He says one of the reasons the hurricane hit New Orleans was because they were going to have a gay pride parade on the following Monday. and no, I'm not joking. But you'd probably have some people in here who think that's true, too. And I love how McCain said he appreciates Hagee's strong support of Israel as well, without noting that the reason he does this isn't for any love of Israel or the Jewish people, but because Israel needs to be in Jewish hands in order to set the stage for the Biblical end times, when Jesus comes back and the Jews can either convert or die. Yes, a strong supporter of the Jewish state of Israel. Of course, this doesn't really matter. It's not like McCain listens to this idiot. As long as we can stop with the fiction that he's some truth-teller who never panders to anyone. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Yeah, looks like we can let that one go. |
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Hall of Famer |
Moveon members? The extreme left propoganda hate mongers? The Cindy Sheehan users? LMAO
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Diehard... so? How does that change the McCain-Hagee connection?
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
And does anyone in here believe God has anything to do with hurricanes, or deciding where they go, or that God punished New Orleans specifically?
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters  |
Not me. Do you believe that Bush ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to blow up the levee supports in order to exterminate Negroes? WSS |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Does anyone think McCain should be "glad" to have the endorsement of a guy who thinks God decided to send a hurricane to New Orleans to punish them for their sins?
And since McCain surely doesn't believe that, does that make him a panderer? How about when you add in how he cozied up to Jerry Falwell? How about when you add in that he suddenly became a Baptist in the past year after decades of describing himself as an Episcopalian? |
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
How about building his entire political career on the bedrock of one of AMerica's most racist churches? Oh sorry. That's your guy. But sure. An FYI I was a Romney guy and he panders with the best of 'em. WSS |
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Shep, relax man, I realize your buddies are all in Movein.ORG. But its getting kind of old isn't it? I mean Cindy Sheehan isn't she old news? Moveon just looking for some more bullshit propoganda to spread around. You have to broaden your fields, look outside of the "LA Basin". The world is a complicated place and it happens outside of "LA LA Land".
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Yeah, we're talking about McCain and Reverend Hagee over here. It's got nothing to do with MoveOn.
Do you think McCain should associate with this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA I love the presentation with the pointer. Hysterical. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
After all, isn't he saying that God damns America?
And not even in the theoretical sense. God actually drowns Americans for their "sins", i.e. parading while gay, getting drunk on Bourbon Street, jazz. God hates that. McCain called it "nonsense" today, but said he still accepts the endorsement. |
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Of course it's nonsense. As Stephen Colbert pointed out on his last "This Week in God" before leaving TDS, Bourbon Street was left largely unscathed, which means that God loves gays, but hates the gay-adjacent. Speaking of Hagee, Robertson, Falwell, and the like, I don't quite get the break between televangelist/megachurch lunatics and smaller/independent church lunatics. If Falwell says that 9/11 happened because of gay abortion doctors, it's largely excused and the Sean Hannitys (Hannities?) of the world will be shocked--shocked!--when people like Christopher Hitchens won't join the line to fellate his corpse, since he was such a virtuous "man of God." But if Wright, Fred Phelps, or the lunatic I passed on the street in Buffalo a few weeks back who blamed earthquakes on Eve eating the apple say the same thing--and I would argue that the only difference is that the Wrights and Phelpses are at least honest about their lunacy--they're crackpots. I mean, I know that Hagee and Robertson wear nice suits (thank you Jesus, not to mention old ladies on pension), but they're not so nice that rational human beings shouldn't be able to call BS when they say that God floods a city because some of the people in it are gay. Dennis When a hurricane heads north and gets Haggard's place, I'll buy the argument. |
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Skipper of the Lake Erie Booze Patrol Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
Of course the idea that a caring and involved God punishes and rewards is a part of Christianity.
No doubt. Blaming "de white man" for the ills of your people is another issue. Creating AIDS, shipping drugs into the hood, blowing up the levees and a litany of other genocidal accusations don't seem to fall into the Biblical arena. And it's ironic, Hagee's ideas on Catholics seem a little in tune with Hecks.  WSS |
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Is it this time of the month already? I didnt think you were supposed to mention McCain's religious-right endorsements until the fourth Saturday... Seriously, heck, arent you beating a dead horse here? We all understand, most of us better than you (not an insult, just that it affects some of us more), how idiotic these pastors are. But McCain isnt endorsing them, he is accepting their support. If Rev Wright wants to endorse Obama, I'm not going to jump on his back. But dont waste your time pretending that that was the issue with Rev Wright. The parallel is almost non-existent. |
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Numbers Retired and hangs in the rafters |
I don't believe I equated the two, did I?
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I'm not sure I agree. The Bible is filled with that kind of paranoia. Just about every book in the Old Testament is centered around one or more of three questions: 1) How do we get the land? 2) How do we get other people out of the land? 3) How are the evil people plotting to keep us out of the land? Spells get cast, women get sent in to seduce men, haircuts get given, etc. Dennis |
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No, this just seemed like you were strongly implying it:
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Its kind of funny really, politicians and spiritual leaders... they do have a lot in common. They both spin information for their own use and they both pander to large crowds of people.
Its no wonder that when they mix an all out argument of who is more full of it than the other begins. |
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