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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
Nobody?

It's a stupid bet Heck.
Most say Obama is in no matter what befalls his campaign from now on.
It's just numbers at this point.

I don't even see that another big surprise will hurt him, and even if there was one I feel the mainstream press is in his corner and will underplay it.

How about you?
I bet John McCain takes the Republican nod.
Bet?

WSS

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DD says the world knows that Hillary is going to win. He knows it. You know it. I know it.

I'd say it's a long shot.
I'll take ten bucks if you give me 20:1 OK?

But:
The Superdelegates could decide Hillary has a better chance.
I don't think your party (well either party) would be above deep sixing a frontrunner if they feared that candidate wasn't electable.

Just ask Howard Dean.
WSS

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
What you guys don't get is that Obama, among Democrats, is back to where he was before the Reverend Wright stuff. His speech worked.

I don't think you guys disagreed in the first place.


You just don't get that because you guys live in the fever swamp, where Reverend Wright really matters; where Reverend Wright was the deal-breaker you'd been looking for.

Not everyone lives in the fever swamp.

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
Steve, are any of your opinions tethered to reality, or are they all excuses for your grumbled snark?

Is that a question?
Uh grounded in reality.

Talking about the hundreds of sexual abuses cases in the Catholic Church is just an excuse for you to make some irrelevant poiont about how people are frauds.

Many people are frauds Heck.
Not just the ones you hate.
Some aren't.


Actual poll numbers that showed Obama losing support among Democrats, then regaining it after his speech is just an excuse to talk about how monolithic the Democrats are, even though the poll numbers don't support you.

Well good for him.
Like I said the speech was as genuine (IMO) as a forced handshake between kids.
I don't think his supporters cared annd probably the "less likely to vote for him" were from Hillary's half.
Matter of fact I'd bet a lot of his supporters thought Wright was right.
Plus Hillary just took a bad hit from the Obama campaign about the "sniper" gaffe.

The reason discussing anything with you is useless is because snark isn't an argument. And that's all you are. That's all you do.

If you say so Heck.
What I see from you is anger about Republicans or Christians or Obama's perceived enemies that blinds you to most else.


And then you claim to be the one who is steeped in reality.

I think so.
If I worshiped any politician as you seem to I'm sure you'd call me a fool.
C'mon Heck. What if I said Romneys speeches choked me up?


It sure is a lot of ego for a guy with a chick's haircut who plays shitty songs in half-empty bars.

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
Now, do you see how that isn't an argument?

Hard to say.
Maybe if it were from somebody else......

WSS

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I just find it so strange that your retorts are 80% about me, not what we're talking about. It's always about how you perceive my bias. It's some version of "This can't be true because you think it." Which isn't a retort. It's was kids do.

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Originally posted by rich4eagle:
nice tie.......tiny biceps

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I'm referring to Steve, who never argues what we're arguing about. He always goes for some generalized nonsense like "Just you hard left Dems beseeching St Barak to lay hands upon you."

Funny how Tupa and I can have books worth of discussion without trading in silly generalities and the cartoon versions of what is right and what is left, or impugning each other's motives. But with Steve, we're there within a post or two.

Yes, must be me.