Okay, so we now know who the nominees are. But wait. Let's laugh at this for a second:

"This candidacy and this campaign continues on," Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said Wednesday on CNN.

...Anyway, now the biggest decision they both have to make is who to take as running mates.

Who do you guys want to see for McCain? How about Obama?

And who do you think it'll be?

I'll start.

I'd like to see McCain pick Mitt Romney. For whatever else he is (a total phony) he's a decent and competent man who knows a lot about the inter-workings of the economy. The two don't like each other at all, but that doesn't matter all that much.

I think he'll end up picking Rob Portman.

As for Obama, I'd like to see him pick Jim Webb and I think he will. Sam Nunn would be my dark horse, but I see him more as Secretary of Defense.

Wow, Jim Webb........that would be cool.......where did you get that idea????????

Actually, I would like to see Mark Warner whom I would have voted for as President over all other candidates

I can see McCain picking Rev Wright to balance the ticket

Obama should pick Al Sharpton. McCain, Hillary Clinton.

>>Who do you guys want to see for McCain? How about Obama? And who do you think it'll be?>>

I believe there is a good chance that McCain will select Romney in order to address 'the economy, stupid' issue. I'd like to see him select the Governor of Alaska - Sarah Palin. I know.............Alaska. But a 'woman's woman' and somebody who can lead.

Obama: Don't care. Not getting my vote.

Clinton: Bill Richardson. Bill Richardson.

I think we can forget about Hillary since she's not going to be nominee. And we can forget about her choosing Richardson even more because he came out for Obama and the Clinton campaign called him a Judas.

Obama-Webb makes a lot of sense. I thought (and think) that Bill Richardson would make a good veep candidate for Obama, but Webb would probably be better.

McCain needs to pick someone who's younger, and who can appeal to southerners and religious types. I think Huckabee is a logical pick. He's certainly younger and religious, but not in an overbearing way; I disagree with him on a lot of things, but he's so darn affable that you can't dislike him. As opposed to most people who blend religion with politics, he doesn't come across as a politician who uses religion to get votes. He seems like a good man, and he would make a good candidate.

As for Hillary, she's toast. If she ends up getting the nomination, I'm pretty sure that the deal would require her to name Satan as her running mate. Of course, after spending the last eight years as vice president, he might need some time off.

Dennis

By the way, what do we do with this?

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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
I'd like to see McCain pick Mitt Romney. For whatever else he is (a total phony) he's a decent and competent man who knows a lot about the inter-workings of the economy. The two don't like each other at all, but that doesn't matter all that much.

So even though he's a complete phony, he's still a decent man? I'm not buying--he's the male Hillary.

Dennis

Yeah, sort of contradictory, I know. What I mean is that despite being the biggest political phony I can think of, that doesn't mean he's a mean-spirited type. He's not.

I don't think McCain will take him, though. He makes McCain's blood boil.

But hey, Kennedy and Johnson hated each other, so what the hell?

I've long been an Obama-Webb booster, but now I'm having second thoughts.

Clearly, Obama's got a problem with Reagan Dems, and that's one Webb could help with. But Obama's got a similar problem with senior citizens, which Webb won't help with at all.

Seniors want a candidate who will promise that things will never change: no changes to social security will ever occur, even if those changes will happen long after they're gone; no changes to Medicare part D, even though the program is overbloated and poorly designed.

Webb's campaign style as a tough, truth-telling populist probably doesn't appeal to senior citizens. If McCain is able to make sure seniors in Florida don't go in droves for the Dems, then he'll win with his coalition of Northern Floridians.

So while Webb will definitely help in places like Virginia and Ohio, I think choosing him may result in ceding Florida, where Obama already is polling poorly.

Maybe that's okay, but I'm wondering whether there's someone else who could make Obama more competitive there.

On the plus side, he's a military man and he takes no shit. He'd be a good attack dog on the trail.

You're point about Obama's elderly problem is valid. It's not even that Obama has a problem with white voters so much as old white voters.

Nunn is also boring. And by that I mean respected.

George Mitchell is another boring ol' respected Democrat he could trot out.

>>On the plus side, he's a military man and he takes no shit. He'd be a good attack dog on the trail. You're point about Obama's elderly problem is valid. It's not even that Obama has a problem with white voters so much as old white voters.[/QUOTE]

Sounds to me that an Obama candidacy would have to walk a thin line in terms of a VP selection.

Kind of hard to sell either Nunn or Mitchell as an agent of change.

He cannot afford to de-energize his primary voters.

IMHO, it is a moot point. Obama cannot win in November. Clinton is the Dems only hope.

You're kidding, right? You do realize that there's a poll out from earlier this week that has Obama over McCain 51-40. and in that poll Obama was up big initially, then McCain closed the gap in April, and now Obama's widened his lead again.

This race has a long way to go. In fact, it hasn't even really started.

If I had to pick a winner right now, I'd choose Obama for sure. There are simply too many things working against a Republican president right now.

Obama's base of black, the democrats will coalesce around him regardless of the rhetoric from hillary supporters right now, and the young and educated will give him equal standing with Mccain.

Obama will pick up a lot of bush policy weary independents and war weary elderly that are under the pinch with rising drug cost.

This race might not be as tight or competitive as it seems right now if he win the nod from the dems. I really think Obama could pull of a 55/45 split just because Mccain like it or not is married to a lot of unpopular Bush policies and the War.

The republicans can poll well now against a possible Obama but when it becomes clear and the democrats close rank the Republicans are in a world of PR hurt. Reverand Wright and Obama's lack of experience are not enought to swing that many unhappy people toward a very Bush like mccain when it comes to the war and Healthcare.

Anyone Obama picks as a VP will only increase his percentages against Mccain.

>>You're kidding, right?>>

Serious as a Heart Attack.

This standoff with Hillary in percentages is probably very transferrable to a nationa presidential competition. The projected future percentages I think are skewed for Obama and possibly insurmountable for Mccain.

I like it. Okay, John. I recently bet a couple people in here who maintained that Obama would never beat Hillary, and looks like I've won that bet.

We're a long ways out, but I think there are enough indicators out there already, most of which don't have anything to do with McCain, that suggest that a Democrat will be in office in January of 2009.

So we can have a nice gentlemen's bet on it. Deal?