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Al Gore's "traveling global warming show," the award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," includes a long flyover shot of majestic Antarctic ice shelves. But this shot was first seen in the 2004 blockbuster "The Day After Tomorrow." Sculpted from Styrofoam and later scanned into a computer, the ice shelf "flyover" looks real.

Karen Goulekas, the special effects supervisor for "The Day After Tomorrow" said the shot is a digital image. She was glad Al Gore used it in the documentary since "It is one hell of a shot." Both movies use the shot to convincingly portray global warming, but it is left to the audience to decide if this created image can both entertain and educate us about our changing planet. (ABC News)

Instead of an Oscar for best documentary, maybe an award for plagiarized special effects should have been a category.


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Story?id=4682216&page=2

Truths and Myths About Weather in Hollywood Blockbusters
Professors View Weather-Related Movie Clips as 'Exercise in Critical Thinking'
By BONNIE VANGILDER and IMAN HOBBS
April 18, 2008

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Imagine a river of volcanic lava oozing down Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles, or New York City's Statue of Liberty engulfed by a 300-foot tidal wave.
When are a movie's special effects based on science?
On the silver screen, nothing matches Mother Nature gone wild. The special effects can blow an audience right out of their seats with images of killer tornadoes, catastrophic hurricanes and violent volcanoes. But is good science a myth in these movies? It's hard to tell when the visual images are so convincing.
Some weather disaster movies have no base in reality, such as the futuristic fantasy "Water World." In that one, global warming causes water to completely cover Earth. Kevin Costner's character grows webbed feet and sports gills behind his ears, supposedly to adapt to an environment without land.
"Cinema makes good science and bad science equally realistic," said David Kirby, author and professor of science communication at the University of Manchester in the United Kingdom. Kirby attended a recent National Science Foundation meeting of scientists and entertainment producers. They concluded that good science, while maybe speeded up or compressed, lends to the credibility and entertainment value of films.
Using Movies as a Teaching Tool
Professors Kevin Furlong and Chuck Ammon use clips from popular weather disaster movies to supplement a course at Penn State University on natural disasters.


"Every clip is another exercise in critical thinking," explained Ammon. "Was that real? Was that fake? Is that realistic? Or is that completely unrealistic?"
The professors said one movie, "Dante's Peak," did look like an actual volcanic eruption. The bomblike explosion spreads ash and sends gases out that obliterate buildings, topple trees and spread destruction for miles.
"That's one of the scenes that probably is the most scientifically accurate," said Furlong. "We know from when Mount St. Helen's erupted, it blew outward and laid all the trees down in one direction."


But as the professors say, the worse the movie, the better the teaching tool. Their course includes plenty of movies with exaggerated weather events: "Twister," "Tidal Wave: No Escape" and "Volcano." Movie audiences expect Hollywood to ramp up the action by twisting fact into fiction. But what happens when Hollywood fiction is used as fact?

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Al Gore's "traveling global warming show," the award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," includes a long flyover shot of majestic Antarctic ice shelves. But this shot was first seen in the 2004 blockbuster "The Day After Tomorrow." Sculpted from Styrofoam and later scanned into a computer, the ice shelf "flyover" looks real.
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Karen Goulekas, the special effects supervisor for "The Day After Tomorrow" said the shot is a digital image. She was glad Al Gore used it in the documentary since "It is one hell of a shot." Both movies use the shot to convincingly portray global warming, but it is left to the audience to decide if this created image can both entertain and educate us about our changing planet.
 
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Ok so he plaigerixed...

Big deal, that's not the issue, retard.

He can find his own video of a polar bear sitting on a small circle of ice if he wants.
 
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Ok so he plaigerixed...

Big deal, that's not the issue, retard.


Yeah retard.
The issue is that the rest of it is a crock of shit!!!!

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I like people who claim the theory of global warming is false. Yet when they are sick they will still go to the doctors whose medicine and theories are based on the same scientific peer reviewed/ independent replicatable results.

Wait dont turn on your tv's or use electricity either because all of those are based on the same testable scientific principles. Better yet dont get into a vehicle whose spooky internal combustion technology must be Satans power moving your vehicles or the chemistry that develops plastics and metallurgy.

The best is people who dismiss the theory who literally have very little scientific or engineering training or education. The hypocrisy of selective logic always makes me laugh. Dont listen to Nasa you know the geniuses who are part of our best and brightest or MIT or Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Stanford and every major university in the entire world. No those organizations are all wrong and the layperson knows from Fox new and journals written by biased journalist and published by oil and utility think tanks. No the world reknown IIT from India and every major government including ours who acknowledges Global warming as real are all wrong. Yes Cal you and STeve and others like you obviously know something those organizations dont. I am sure it is based from extensive reading of geology,chemistry,physics,astronomy,meteorology, and other like fields from journals and field studies you have done to prove or support your position.

Or maybe its just opinion based upon well..... nothing credible.
 
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I like people who claim the theory of global warming is false.


Oh I don't thinkl it's false at all.
I think humans contribute to it somewhat.
I think it's overstated.
I think the output of CO2 will grow and grow no matter what we're likely to do.
And in 20 years the planet will be just about as inhabitable as it is now.

The drastic steps needed to even make an attemt at slowing it down will not happen.
Numero uno:
Reduce the population.
Numero dos:
Start eating beans instead of cows.

Get on that one Al.

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BTW I just listened to some loons (oops respected enironmental scientists) on NPR discussing plans to release shitloads of sulphur into the ozone to cool things off.

Great idea kids.
Now swallow a spider to catch the fly......

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Originally posted by sevknowsbetter:
I like people who claim the theory of global warming is false. Yet when they are sick they will still go to the doctors whose medicine and theories are based on the same scientific peer reviewed/ independent replicatable results.

Wait dont turn on your tv's or use electricity either because all of those are based on the same testable scientific principles. Better yet dont get into a vehicle whose spooky internal combustion technology must be Satans power moving your vehicles or the chemistry that develops plastics and metallurgy.

The best is people who dismiss the theory who literally have very little scientific or engineering training or education. The hypocrisy of selective logic always makes me laugh. Dont listen to Nasa you know the geniuses who are part of our best and brightest or MIT or Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Stanford and every major university in the entire world. No those organizations are all wrong and the layperson knows from Fox new and journals written by biased journalist and published by oil and utility think tanks. No the world reknown IIT from India and every major government including ours who acknowledges Global warming as real are all wrong. Yes Cal you and STeve and others like you obviously know something those organizations dont. I am sure it is based from extensive reading of geology,chemistry,physics,astronomy,meteorology, and other like fields from journals and field studies you have done to prove or support your position.

Or maybe its just opinion based upon well..... nothing credible.


Sev, your asian so obviously far superior in your intelligence level. We all know that Asians are smart. Your analytical ability is beyond comprehension. You are an extremely smart person. But you lack of logic is dumb founding. Base your findings on something meaningful. Don't quote bull.
 
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the fact that Nasa over 30 years ago to the .0010 of one degree developed a model predicting global warming and its detrimental effects must just be my logic short circuiting. You are calling Nasa loons? how about MIT and harvard and yale? I agree they are known to be loons. The feedback cycles that were predicted about black sea level reflections versus white ice due to artic shelf collapse and the exponential increases of collapses because of feedback cycles.

Die hard I am half korean and half mexican american, lets not bring up racial stereo types as they relate to intelligence. Otherwise I am just a very smart tomato picker that drinks tequila and sings bad karoake. The logic of the absolute dangerous repercussions to our fresh water source IE ice pack melt and rain fall as well as species extinction which could lead to food chain collapse scares me. The fact that Nasa's models predicted 20 years ago the exact species of plants that are now proliferating in brazilian rain forests due to Global warming is so accurate that it borders on mystic. This is not a minor problem nor a boogey man problem and the fact that you dismiss it based on your own conjecture in the face of overwhelming government/business and academic worldwide consensus is honestly mind boggling. Maybe you dont want to change your life styles and you think you will be dead before anything drastic happens. Thats fine but I care about my children and my future grandchildren and I dont want to give them a overcooked dumpster to live in.
 
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I read somewhere that the polar bear was computer generated.

"It's made up, but it's okay because it's about something we believe because we want to influence people to vote for marxist dems"

boring.
 
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Cal, you really need to quit going backwards. Gore got the Nobel Prize, Global Warming is a total consensus of the legit scientific community (and every single government including ours), Bush is considered by the U.S. public and historians to be the worst U.S. president ever, and Charlie Frye still sucks.

Stick to Joe Thomas. You got that one right. Avoid all other topics.
 
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ROFLMAO
 
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Gore got the Nobel Prize,



Uh, so did Arafat.
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arafat represented his people who were kicked out of their homes by the jewish resettlement and are in extreme poverty caused by jewish suppression. What would you do if someone kicked you out of your generational home and took over your land? They have no access to jobs or protection, so demonize arafat and denigrate his nobel but at least look at it with unbiased information.
 
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What would you do if someone kicked you out of your generational home and took over your land?

Butcher as many women and children as possible and wait for the Nobel committee to vote?

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Hitler Stalin and Osama Bin Laden represented their people.
I've got a good amout of respect for you, Sev, but we disagree on this and one other thing.

When I think of Mexicans I think of friendly and hardworking people, good food and hot women.
(not tequila drinking tomato pickers)

As to Koreans being smart, right on but kim chee sucks,
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thanks steve and we can respectfully disagree. I am not exactly an Arafat fan but I can see why his people loved him. He is not Stalin maybe at times he dipped into OBL's tactics.

A little known fact that mexican americans see themselves different from the migrant mexican illegals (wetbacks). I have always thought that a bit odd. Kim chee does not suck, stinky yes, but there are all kinds of pickled cold side dishes that are kim chee'd. You should try some others that do not have fish sauce as their base and you might be surprised. That fish sauce is strong, I am banned from eating it but once a year by my wife and Kids. The audacity of them! I thought I was in control of my house?
 
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That fish sauce is strong, I am banned from eating it but once a year by my wife and Kids. The audacity of them! I thought I was in control of my house?


Heh.
Well it musta been the fish sauce the very few times I tasted it.

I forget the name of the first Korean entree I'd had but I picked it and the waitress said "oh this very hot."
"Great" I replied "I like hot food!"
She gave me a concerned look and repeated the warning which I blew off.

LOL
I couldn't get through one quarter of it, tears were streaming down my face.
She and I had a pretty good laugh over that.

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steve the funny heavy stink of garlic and fish sauce with an odd aftertaste. Its the crushed red peppers in extreme which made your mouth burn and possibly your sphincter afterwards. I love my korean food but boy does it smell strong... the scolville factor really does not bother me. I was brought up eating hot foods for breakfast-lunch and dinner. When I was serving I used to always take new U.S. officers in seoul to restaurants and would always get a good laugh. Banana
 
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