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The only GOP candidate that can beat Obama and Hillary, IMO, is McCain. He should be too old, too moderate, and too compromising to win the nomination...leaving the GOP with no change come November. But Giuliani makes McCain look conservative, Huckabee's push has stolen alot of Romney's votes, and Obama's youth, call for change, and political inexperience make McCain's age and experience as a compromiser assets.

He leads the national polls by an average of more than 10% now (as Reps start looking for an electable candidate), and he has a real shot at it now after looking DOA just 6 weeks ago.

GOP victory in '08?
 
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If McCain beats Romney today, I dont see how Romney recovers or how anyone catches McCain. Who knew the Michigan primary would be so interesting?
 
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I'm a little surprised by the size of Romneys victory last night. I think I'm disappointed. Not being a very strong supporter of any of the candidates, I'm a ashamed to say that I've begun rooting for the person I think is most electable - McCain.

Hopefully McCain wins SC easily. If Romney could somehow pull out 2nd place (I dont think so), that would be manna from heaven - Huck would be hit pretty hard.

The only way this starts to narrow down AT ALL is if McCain wins SC AND Florida. Otherwise it's still a 4-way race come Feb 5, and could very well still have most of those candidates standing after that.

Just to make things more interesting, I think any clear sign that Romney is out will be an open door for Bloomberg to start his 3rd party campaign. I'm still not sure who he steals the most votes from - depends on if he has an entire platform or if he remains a candidate of only a few issues.

What a mess...I think I like it.
 
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It';s a tad early to count any of them out.
Romney's my choice as I think once he becomes more familiar he'll be more likeable.
He's got to lose that "too slick" feel though.

Compared to McCain most of the rest have a "stature gap" and while I think McCain's wrong on a lot of isseues he'd be a hell of a lot closer that the generic false promises of empty suit Obama.

McCain has a young sounding voice so I don't think his age will be as big a problem as if he sounded like Robert Byrd.

We may well see a Hillary surge if Obama's team keeps playing the race card.
If he becomes the "Black candidate" he may well marginalize himself out of the race.

I'm with you Toop, in that there isn't anybody there that get's me fired up. I predict any "promises" made by a Republican president will be thwarted by a democrat house and any made by a democrat president will be forgotten quickly with the failure blamed on Bush.

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Grumble, grumble.

Obama is an empty suit? How do you figure? I've never heard of anyone refer to him that way.

You may think he's got less experience than someone like Hillary or McCain, but he's hardly an empty suit.

PS - Obama's team isn't playing the race card. Hillary's team is. Obama's team is responding to that.
 
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Originally posted by heckofajobBrownie:
Grumble, grumble.

Obama is an empty suit? How do you figure? I've never heard of anyone refer to him that way.
Possibly since you only read left wing blogs.
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But seriously while I think just about every word from every candidate at this point is pithy Obama's seem to be the closest to pure cotton candy.
Even you say you're getting sick of the change broken record.




You may think he's got less experience than someone like Hillary or McCain, but he's hardly an empty suit.

I think experience is overrated.
Whoever is president will have a full team of washington insiders to run the show.


PS - Obama's team isn't playing the race card. Hillary's team is. Obama's team is responding to that.


Oh well.
As an Obama guy you should be hoping that Jesse and Al don't get too involved in the campaign.

BTW did you see the bullshit email about Obama's Muslim roots?
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I wouldn't say I'm an "Obama guy". I just think it's ridiculous to call him an "empty suit". You're saying he's an empty suit because of his speeches? That's not what an empty suit is. Otherwise, they'd all be empty suits.

Clearly, George Bush is the least knowledgeable candidate in recent memory. That has consequences. And that's what an empty suit is.

Barack Obama, whatever he is and isn't, isn't someone who lacks policy knowledge. Neither does Hillary, or McCain, or Romney, or Edwards.

Mike Huckabee -- there's your empty suit. Like the guy a lot (how can you not?) but he doesn't know much about policy. He even admits so much, as if that's part of his charm.

So if experience is overrated (huh?) and he's got lots of policy knowledge, what's your problem with Obama? That his speeches seem to inspire people?

I don't particularly care for the cotton candy stuff either, but I can't exactly single out Obama from the others in this regard simply because he's better at it.
 
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His speeches are ****ing off the hook. And a little inspiration right now would be a good thing.

I still can't believe we elected the most unfit president in the history of forever... and then turned around and did it again. It's still like a bad dream.

I have a friend, a Republican but otherwise a good guy, and I asked him straight out (after too many beers): George W. Bush. Seriously. That made sense to you.

And he laughed and said, "Who was I gonna vote for? John Kerry? Al Gore?"

Whatever. I would've voted for my pug Rocco over Bush.
 
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