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  5. hoorta

    Official Browns at Ravens Game Thread: Nov 28

    Well, do you have a offense that is playing 8 defense in the box all night against you to neutralize Chubb and Hunt Stef? Because it's true? Baker is sucking, and the boo bird chorus has reached deafening levels.
  6. hoorta

    Baker Mayfield

    Damn Steve us call us realists "Haters" it's a popular position for the sunshine pumper crowd.... Maybe you missed Baker gimping around AGAIN on one leg. FYI, I didn't... Get the crip out there for the rest of the season, and hello, 8-9. That's being charitable considering... This isn't about THIS year nickers... Unless you believe in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, THIS season is shot. PERIOD. Baker injury wise- is SHOT. I just told my pal to put my Browns Ravens tickets up for sale. Starting bid for section 111 at face value, I'll eventually take just a buck. I'm not driving 440 miles just to see Baker play like a third string street free agent. FWIW, Kareem Hunt's Dad happens to agree with me....
  7. BernieSuperBowl2

    Official Browns at Ravens Game Thread: Nov 28

    Prayers for Conklin, hopefully he makes it back, but as said above this is a really bad injury. Remember LeCharles Bentley? The Pro Bowl center/guard who signed with the Browns, tore his patellar tendon and never played football again. A staph infection was involved, but he was only 26 at the time. I had to dig it up on wikipedia as a refresher: "Bentley signed with the Cleveland Browns in 2006,[5] and was regarded by ESPN as the top-rated free agent. However, Bentley tore his patellar tendon on the first play of the team's first 11-on-11 training camp session on July 27, and missed the entire 2006 season.[5] He underwent four total operations, including two to clean out a staph infection that ate away at the tendon, in addition to a virus that became severe enough that doctors considered amputating his leg.[6] ESPN reported on July 23, 2007 that Bentley had been cleared to play and would be reporting to training camp. Bentley said that his knee was "70 percent" and thought it would improve upon the start of the 2007 campaign,[7] but he would again miss the entire season. In December, the Browns reduced Bentley's $36-million contract from six years to three and his salary to the NFL minimum $605,000, with incentives to reach $4 million.[citation needed] On June 10, 2008, nearly two years after his injury, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that Bentley had passed his team physical and was cleared to return to the practice field,[8] but the following day, the Browns granted his request to be released.[9] Upon his release, teams such as Buffalo, Cincinnati, Miami, Oakland, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Francisco and Seattle expressed varying degrees of interest in Bentley.[10] However, he was not signed to a team for the 2008 season. After spending the 2008 season out of football, Bentley announced in January 2009 that he was no longer attempting to return to the NFL, and would start a career in Cleveland media."
  8. Not good for anyone anytime.
  9. https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-accidentally-released-jeffrey-epsteins-flight-records-2021-10 https://patriotone.substack.com/p/in-search-of-justice-the-first-day
  10. Reminder. Judge is an O appointee that was just confirmed in the last few weeks.
  11. Unsympathetic

    Official Browns at Ravens Game Thread: Nov 28

    Not happy to be the first to post this but let's face realities. Conklin out for season with patella tendon tear, surgery is scheduled Patella tendon attaches kneecap to shinbone.. tearing this is one of the worst injuries. This is career-threatening for Conklin.
  12. ...in taking a step back......we've come a long way......we used to get trounced by everyone....we expected it....we knew it was going to happen.....and now, we're pissed that we lost to one of the best teams in the league. We have come a long way. But there is more work to do. We have to replace OBJ with a true #1 receiver...and probably not stop there with the WR room. We're pretty much done for this year. We almost made it to December......but it used to be October, when we were 'done for this year'.
  13. Just in time for the Maxwell trial
  14. I was going to suggest that you two get a room....... but I know a kidder when I see one. Oh well no BROWNS game on have to talk about something. GO BROWNS !
  15. mjp28

    What is Stefanski doing?

    Kickers can't live with them can't live without them....... and would like to choke them, occasionally.
  16. JAFBF

    Vaccination mandate

  17. JAFBF

    Vaccination mandate

  18. Orion

    Tale of the Tape - Browns @ Ravens

    I listen in the morning at work, except today I was wicked busy. We know that Kitchens didn't like him. Whereas Stef, last year, couldn't praise enough his effort and willingness to do whatever they ask of him (while not having him up on the 53 for game days). I guess I'm done expecting a coach to pull a rabbit out of Higgins' hat.
  19. On our little pickem tonight it's WAS (-1) 15-8-6 . Ive got WAS there. I see where the odds have moved to WAS +1½ and higher. O/U is about 46½. I'm off there. ........edit, I've used VI https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=373. for many, many years now for quick easy FREE data, stats.
  20. So are you for rampant, unchecked migration from central American countries to here? Here's a better idea. Why don't we just annex Mexico and Central America?
  21. Dutch Oven

    Baker Mayfield

    This really illustrates why Baker is good at play-action or roll-outs, compared to dropping back in the pocket, looking at the defense, making reads, etc. He's a rhythm passer. Fake the ball to the left to Chubb, roll right, rip the ball to Jarvis on a crossing pattern to the same side 12 yards downfield.
  22. If anyone is watching SEA v WSH - took the U47.5 and WSH +3 (bought .5 point)
  23. tiamat63

    Baker Mayfield

    I always enjoy piecing together things I've worked on from time past and how it connects with relevance to the present. The nice thing about having a fantastic memory is my ability to span those moments and connect them over long periods of time. The downside is I have trouble forgetting things I desperately wish I could. But that's a sad topic for another time. If you've followed my postings and work on here, I've hinted a few times at some trends from Baker. Those trends tend to be.. - Locking onto boundary receivers when the boundary is to his left (short side of the field) - Not utilizing field space to his right (wide side of the field being to his right) or hesitating to use field space over preference of throws with more ... "traffic". - Not utilizing that field space for coverage tips even if he comes back to throw to the short side of the hashes. I'm genuinely wondering if it's a kinetics issue because Baker rolling right and missing targets is pretty well noticed at this point. Anywho, I've also mentioned, as far back as Game 1 against the Ravens last year, DC's scheming up looks to invite throws. Baiting turnovers, to be short about it. Baker can do pretty well against "vanilla" coverages, even on straight drops he does a fairly decent job of anticipating space. This was something we saw as far back as the 2019 pre-season when I mentioned the coaching staff was going to "address" our offensive line woes by letting Baker, well... "be Baker" (whatever the hell that means at this point) Best I can figure, let him take that next step in his maturation as a QB, let him develop that full command of the offense and unleash his point guard abilities to let him distribute as he read fit. A link to my breakdown of that boundary pick by the Ravens from over a year ago, middle of the page. Refresh yourself. I wanted to try to understand where things started going weird, even before Bakers injury. Even more important, I wanted to try and find the "why?". Why are we seeing DC's, specifically the Pats, draw up coverages that made Baker just... guess? Well, I'm finding more trends. Follow along, friends. I'm taking you back to the Houston game. A game against a decent defense and before Bakers injury(ies). I've mentioned the biggest trend of Baker locking into boundary throws. Which is odd given that the more defenders you have over field space, the more likely you are to help diagnose coverages. Unless you get split field coverages which are popular, but then again you can get lazy reading half the field. A theme you might notice. Pre-snap against a 2zone look. We get a small hitch - Po combo at the top. Hitch freezes the SAM Backer, the CB plays cover 2 rules - he checks the outside receiver, re-routes him inside and drops off with eyes to rob flat. The SAM backer stepping up opens a nice little throwing lane which Baker sees and rips. I really can't complain about this, you can't argue with results. But it wasn't until I got further in this game I started to notice this lack of willingness to use more space a real problem. There's no issue with being quick and decisive, but when you start getting to pre-snap happy, better coaches and defenses will see this sort of thing. I only list the spacing at the bottom because you have a 2 man pattern against a 3 man triangle with the MIKE at the top creating a hell of a lot of traffic for such a squared route. Leading into danger is something I try to avoid at all costs. Remember this look though. Especially DPJ on the settle just inside the numbers and outside the WILL (#51) Backer. There's A LOT of "usable" space to attack if the coaches anticipate this coverage again. One of my favorites - another empty set against one of HOU's cover 2 looks. Remember what I said about usable space. Stef dials up a similar concept at the top. Expect it's Hunt running a little spot route with Higgy running the slant behind it. Only to the field side, you have Njoku running the hitch to occupy the linebacker and Bryant running the seam. You can attack seams against cover 2, it's just that your sight adjust is exactly what Bryant did here - snap off your route and present your numbers before the safety. If this was a MOTFC look you'd carry this upfield. But back to my point, Baker elects to throw into a crowd. A crowd that is - to his left, and to the boundary (short side) Themes... When HOU switched up their looks, that's when things got dicey and Bakers pre-determinations started to show themselves. Baker again checks into the top, the boundary .... to his left. Chubb running the influence hitch with Njoku running the post behind it. Step one... Baker reads corner. Corner is off but open hip retreating. He's able to carry outside and take away the 7, but able to recover and limit the outside throw to Chubb. The WILL backer is actually getting depth in his hook/vert zone here. Depth that means rounding out any route behind him is going to take an extra moment or two. Moments and information your QB has to take and process lightening quick. Baker brings his eyes back downfield to see safety leverage. At this point you see the flat defender isn't the WILL backer. So if he zone expands and the corner keeps drifting upfield, you take your cheap yards with your underneath. You can hit your RB on the hitch, because it's the safer throw. Your eyes are already there, or if you don't like it flat you can do what Rogers did last night and hit the TE over the middle for a big 3rd down conversion who is going to box out the MIKE like he's playing in the paint. Either way, if you don't want to wait for that window to be there with Njoku, who is going to take time to clear that backer, then take your safe option and lull those backers to sleep. Don't let them get comfortable getting depth in their drops and taking away the intermediate routes. This is where you dink before you dunk. For reason(s) I cannot understand.... Baker starts to wind up and put this ball into a non-existent window. The safety is inside the numbers, you HAVE to wait for your receiver to sharply square this around the backer and under the safety. Njoku can't carry this up the seam because you're just throwing into coverage where you risk a pick and/or getting your receiver fucking killed. Baker rips one into a non-existent window. This wasn't on Njoku. If Baker read that his TE was going to break to the 7, well, it wouldn't have been there. The corner was too deep so that couldn't have been the route. David looks like he was ripping this positive (back inside) the whole way. He can't carry the route INTO the safety, so you can forget that. So either this was a bad read, or a bad read AND a bad throw. Either way this ball sailed on Mayfield and sailed badly. Incredibly fortunate this wasn't a pick. My biggest concern is how this sort of thing highlights Baker making things harder on himself, and thus the offense as whole, then it has to be. You just got a couple of the same looks thrown at you on the same drive and the moment Houston switched it up, you damn near handed them the ball. Because, as I said, Baker LOVES locking onto this side of the field in this situation. So I'm beginning to understand the "why?" DC's after this game started showing looks that they did. But what I'm failing to understand is the "why?" Baker has shown a history of being obsessed getting into trouble in situations strangely similar to this. Left and boundary. Either way, this is before Baker's shoulder became a problem, you started see a bread-crumb trail (if you will) of plays that coaches could use as sort of a landmark to beginning their game designs for attacking him. I know I'm not the only one noticing these trends, I can't be. There are paid professionals that pour over tape. But I did highlight some pages back Baker not pulling the trigger on a double seam against NE because he couldn't get a feel for the corner depth and drew the safety into what would have been his throw. This sort of miss-fire foreshadows those problems. I'll have more another time.
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